Knicks, Rockets working on Carmelo Anthony trade scenarios

Thanks!! What time estimate can you give us on how long this process will take

 

@ch44 @cyberx @Codman

 

I dont want to give up Ariza.. but realistically if the trade is..

Ariza, Ryan Anderson, 2020 protected 1st for Carmelo Freakin Anthony.. how do you really say no?

 

Ariza isn't going anywhere. Him and Paul were working out the other day in LA together.

 

Ariza is a friend of CP3 so trade him and you have a serious problem, so yes ch44 is legit and yes Ariza could definitely be the hold up.

 

while you don't have a say CP3 & Harden has

 

The Ariza theory is very plausible (I discussed it on my podcast last week), and it makes some basketball sense because SF is the one spot where the Rockets do have some rotation excess. I doubt Ariza goes for a lot of reasons -- his history here, relationships with CP3 and James, etc -- but the uncertainty with his contract after this season is a factor that Daryl has to consider. Of course, there may have already been a "hypothetical" chat with Trevor and/or his representation to get a better handle on his July 2018 expectations... so it may not be quite as uncertain to Daryl as it is to us.

If Ariza stays, and my hunch is he will, then it gets interesting with Tucker and Mbah a Moute. In theory, one of those guys is movable without significantly altering the Houston rotation -- and perhaps that's why the Rockets floated an "in season" move as a possibility. That said, is P.J. Tucker or Luc Mbah a Moute really worth keeping Carmelo and all that comes with that until December, if you're the Knicks? My guess is no... and that's why I think they cave before camp.

 

Because we wont need to give up Ariza if we wait longer. The pressure is on the Knicks, not the Rockets. They are countering with Ariza, Morey will counter with a left hook right hand.

 

when does the training camp starts exactly?
does any1 know?

 

From my vantage point FWIW (& all that jazz), it is not Kyrie but rather what effect Kyrie et al have on any potential trade partners. 'Assets' are on
hold until the ink is dry.

 

Trevor Ariza is great because he's A very useful 3 and D player with a nice $7.5 million expiring contract. He also is top 10 in steals and three-pointers attempted while shooting 34.4% last season. He does not demand the ball and averages less than one turnover per game.

He is the perfect role player.

 

How is ariza overrated??

He is on a value deal of 7mil
Excellent leader in the locker room
Solid 3 and D player (just not in his prime)

He is a valuable role player for a contender.

EDIT: just saw. Brown Lost It above me

 

I would not mind parting with Ariza spec if it means landing Melo but it's a sticky situation

1. Ariza has been loyal and a big reason for recruiting some people

2. He's good friends with Melo, harden, brown and Paul. It's great chemistry for the team to have players close like that.

 

Morey is gonna work his money maker magic. Just sit back and wait.

 

Glass = Backboard
Surface = where they play basketball

Melo confirmed.

 

Ariza is extremely important to this team, not because of how "good" he is, but because of how versatile he is and the fact that he is a competent rotation wing which is very valuable in this league.

 

One week to go


Tuesday Five Forty Five

 

My favorite TV station is channel 44.

 

Basically, if another team is willing to take Anderson that means that other team (3rd team) has some sort of asset headed back to NY. So NY wants that 3rd team asset + Ariza. Rockets would rather NY just be content with the 3rd team asset. So, maybe NY tries to hold out to get Ariza, but when training camp comes, maybe NY just "bites the bullet" and takes the 3rd team asset and calls it a day.

Most important thing, from what @ch44 says, is that a 3rd team (two of them) are willing to take Anderson. So NY doesn't have to get Anderson back. We just don't know what type of asset the 3rd teams are offering. From NY's perspective, even if it is a slight degree, they are better assets than Anderson from their perspective.