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Where Does The Democratic Party Go From Here?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by BleedRocketsRed, Nov 10, 2016.

  1. leroy

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    Julian Castro (current Secretary of HUD and former mayor of San Antonio) and Joaquin Castro (current US Rep for the Texas 20th in San Antonio).

    Odds are good that Joaquin is going to run for Ted Cruz's spot in 2018.
     
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  2. Invisible Fan

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    They ignored grassroots donations that fueled Obama and Bernie's messages and the media assumed it was demographics rather than the message.

    Obama dismissing and ignoring occupy turned into a party thing which crystallized with the wikileaks. Not only did they never mentioned them in public apparently they called them lunatics, losers and idealists in private.

    Terrible messaging and outreach along with the fact that she essentially ran as a double incumbent.

    What should the party do?

    End Clintonian New Democrat principles.

    Choose labor or deregulation/globalist policies but not both.

    Drop gun rights as a national policy. Let that tire fire burn stateside.

    Quit assuming the minority vote is theirs. Appeal to their values rather than values they should believe in yet have zero intrinsic value other than to avoid public shame.

    Promote reform and reduction of the government with actionable goals.

    Choose between interventionism or isolationism, not both

    Choose between active populism or the trend to oligarchy(by not doing anything), but not both.

    Break down large companies, starting with the family controlled media companies that comprise 80% mindshare. Put out a top ten for people to take note.
     
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  3. pirc1

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    Bring them down, Democrat party needs fresh blood.
     
  4. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
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    Those grown up liberals-turned-republican also tend to not vote the same way their predecessors did.
     
  5. bnb

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    Bigger question, I think, is where does the Republican party go? Do they embrace the buffoonery of Trump because he won and model the party on that? It will be a weird 2020 with Trump as the gatekeeper and the one who delivered the presidency after so many in the party disavowed him. Newt Gringrich in cabinet? Giuliani as Attorney General. Dennis Rodman as Secretary of State? Is this your party of the future?

    Hillary didn't lose by much and she's now done. There was no new groundswell of support for Trump. There will be a necessary purge of the old guard at the DNC. They need younger candidates. Not Warren or Sanders. Hopefully they don't go full McGovern to appease the social media angst and instead advance candidates that appeal to a broader range of the electorate.
     
  6. pirc1

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    Not exactly. As I grow older, I become more practical and understand you cannot rush things, that's why I choose Hillary over Sanders. Society is always moving forward, even you, would most likely be considered a liberal if you were to live in the 1900s. It is just that what defines liberal and conservative is always changing. Pretty soon no one will think GLBT rights is a liberal issue for example. Just like Women's voting rights is no longer a liberal issue.
     
  7. Big MAK

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    Does anyone have the numbers on AA voter turn out? I've seen the numbers of total votes over the past 3 elections. Is the Democratic party's only option to nominate AA/Hispanic candidates in order to get the necessary voter excitement?
     
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    Most democrats that shift over do so due to taxes.
    People don't all of a sudden start embracing the twisted social ideals of the Republican party, they just like the fact that they don't have to pay taxes; or their sector of the job market is protected by Trump era protectionism.
     
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  9. pirc1

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    I don't believe it is the taxes, Clinton is not raising the tax on middle income families. It is the uneducated white vote that is most responsible for voting in Trump, they will be completely disappointed in four years is my prediction. Globalization and automation will not be sopped by Trump or anyone else, low information voter will be the demise of the republic.
     
  10. Amiga

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    I hope they don't play the 'our 1st priority is to make Trump a 1-term President'.

    And Bernie's statement below is a good start. Honestly work with Trump on policies that align with them and push back on those that don't. Trump is a character that I think will work with you no matter your party identification when you support him and the DEM is smart to work with him on things they align on (min wage for example). They can still crave out a progressive policy.

    The voter blocks they lost (in what they thought was a safe firewall for Clinton) can flip back to them under a strategy of successful progressive policies with Trump and hitting Trump on other WTF-is-he-thinking policy.


    BURLINGTON, Vt., Nov. 9 – U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) issued the following statement Wednesday after Donald Trump was elected president of the United States:

    “Donald Trump tapped into the anger of a declining middle class that is sick and tired of establishment economics, establishment politics and the establishment media. People are tired of working longer hours for lower wages, of seeing decent paying jobs go to China and other low-wage countries, of billionaires not paying any federal income taxes and of not being able to afford a college education for their kids - all while the very rich become much richer.

    “To the degree that Mr. Trump is serious about pursuing policies that improve the lives of working families in this country, I and other progressives are prepared to work with him. To the degree that he pursues racist, sexist, xenophobic and anti-environment policies, we will vigorously oppose him.”
     
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    Stop being so beta and grab more p***y. It's what winners do.
     
  12. JuanValdez

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    But, what is he going to do for work?
     
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    DNC should start by improving their IT department. Lord knows how many emails keep getting lost.
     
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    Morning After To-Do List:

    1. Take over the Democratic Party and return it to the people. They have failed us miserably.

    2. Fire all pundits, predictors, pollsters and anyone else in the media who had a narrative they wouldn't let go of and refused to listen to or acknowledge what was really going on. Those same bloviators will now tell us we must "heal the divide" and "come together." They will pull more hooey like that out of their ass in the days to come. Turn them off.

    3. Any Democratic member of Congress who didn't wake up this morning ready to fight, resist and obstruct in the way Republicans did against President Obama every day for eight full years must step out of the way and let those of us who know the score lead the way in stopping the meanness and the madness that's about to begin.

    4. Everyone must stop saying they are "stunned" and "shocked". What you mean to say is that you were in a bubble and weren't paying attention to your fellow Americans and their despair. YEARS of being neglected by both parties, the anger and the need for revenge against the system only grew. Along came a TV star they liked whose plan was to destroy both parties and tell them all "You're fired!" Trump's victory is no surprise. He was never a joke. Treating him as one only strengthened him. He is both a creature and a creation of the media and the media will never own that.

    5. You must say this sentence to everyone you meet today: "HILLARY CLINTON WON THE POPULAR VOTE!" The MAJORITY of our fellow Americans preferred Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump. Period. Fact. If you woke up this morning thinking you live in an effed-up country, you don't. The majority of your fellow Americans wanted Hillary, not Trump. The only reason he's president is because of an arcane, insane 18th-century idea called the Electoral College. Until we change that, we'll continue to have presidents we didn't elect and didn't want. You live in a country where a majority of its citizens have said they believe there's climate change, they believe women should be paid the same as men, they want a debt-free college education, they don't want us invading countries, they want a raise in the minimum wage and they want a single-payer true universal health care system. None of that has changed. We live in a country where the majority agree with the "liberal" position. We just lack the liberal leadership to make that happen (see: #1 above).
    Let's try to get this all done by noon today.

    -- Michael Moore
     
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    Booker needs to run and his slogan should be "I saved a dude from a fire".
     
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    Does this mean that Republicans don't care who they vote for as long as they are labeled R? Shouldn't there be a better criteria in which you should be able to define who is the better candidate?
     
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    No lies were told there... If Donna had any respect for herself and for the DNC she'd step down ASAP. I said that is the first thing that needs to happen.
     
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  19. DonnyMost

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    Republicans don't tend to stay home for an election cycle. Those that did manage to go picked the obvious choice for their leanings.
     
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    Lol, Van Jones the communist???? Yes, please let them pick him to be their champion.
     

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