Seems pretty much universally agreed that the VP gives a 2% bump in his home state. http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/hillary-clinton-tim-kaine-vp/
Just finish watching Hillary's introduction to Tim Kaine in Florida and Kaine's speech that followed, and Tim Kaine knocked it out of the park! Just a great speech. Anyone that hasn't watched Kaine's speech needs to.
Not nearly as boring as one might infer from all the "boring Tim Kaine" talk coming into this, which would have suggested a Ben Stein level candidate. Very disappointed. <iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/1Cg1HB63_Do" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A CNN pundit bizarrely invoked <a href="https://twitter.com/DoraTheExplorer">@DoraTheExplorer</a> in a rant about <a href="https://twitter.com/timkaine">@timkaine</a>'s bilingual speech <a href="https://t.co/0cTsdDVPAI">https://t.co/0cTsdDVPAI</a> <a href="https://t.co/UI3H4V53zy">pic.twitter.com/UI3H4V53zy</a></p>— New York Daily News (@NYDailyNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/NYDailyNews/status/756949239339552768">July 23, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Not a good look by Camp Trump to have a blonde lady on TV complaining about Kaine speaking Spanish.
Kaine just shows that Hillary is totally taking the black vote and the "Bernie vote" for granted. could end up biting her...
Agreed. Picking the guy who spent 17 years fighting housing discrimination as a civil rights attorney is a blatant example of HRC taking the black vote for granted. Particularly against a guy who was famously sued by the federal government for housing discrimination.
nice try Remember the Obama effect with the black vote? Do you think this pale chap could have the same effect?
The primaries made it very clear that Hillary can in fact take the black vote for granted. The Kaine pick tells me that she's less worried about what Bernie supporters are going to do and more worried about what sort of money Wall Street is going to cough up.
African American votes can only get better for Trump from this point on. I saw a poll in Ohio where the African American vote for Trump is 0%...in a state that is essentially tied overall. Meanwhile, black support for Clinton is one thing. Turnout is quite another. There is NO WAY they will come out for Hillary like they did for Obama.
Question: How many people here are really familiar with Tim Kaine's history, work and campaign ability, especially before yesterday? I feel like many people are doing the equivalent of grading a team's NBA draft 5 minutes after the pick is made based on some college stats and youtube videos. What Tim Kaine will do for Hillary for any part of the electorate is not going to be based on a first-day impression. It's going to be an accumulation of all the work that he does during the entire campaign. Appealing to black voters or Latino voters or women voters or progressive voters isn't just a matter of selecting a VP or President candidate who is from that group or demographic. Remember Sarah Palin? I remember the first reaction to her selection was "Who?" and then "She gonna really help McCain shore up the women votes and right wing votes." Didn't work out so well because she was (and still is) incompetent and crazy but it took a while to reveal itself. I think even her convention speech was really well-received and McCain got a nice early bump after her selection. Tim Kaine looked like a "boring centrist" pick based on "pre-draft" reputation. His debut speech is quite good. We'll see how it goes moving forward.
This. I'm pretty shocked she didn't pick a progressive candidate. He seems like a party guy and not sure if that is smart when the party is as divided as it is coming off that brutal primary process. Trump picked a guy very far to the right which was smart to help unite his party. Her pick does nothing to really help her.
Sure it does. She trusts him to not spill any more secrets. That's ALWAYS first and foremost for Clinton. After the last 3 weeks, with the FBI scorching and now the DNC Wikileaks thing...the LAST thing she wants is someone she has to worry about. Plus, lets face it. Putting Sanders or Warren on the ticket takes the spotlight away from her (which she loathes) AND she doesn't want to put up with either of them for 4 years if she is elected.
True. I meant to address that. The minority vote and the black vote in particular will go overwhelmingly for Clinton but the turnout is certainly a wild card. In the end I doubt it will matter much because Clinton has no chance of winning any of the southern states apart from Florida and Virginia. North Carolina is in play I guess but I'll believe it when I see it. But she could turn out all the black folk she can find in Mississippi and she'd still never win. But of course she doesn't expect to nor need to. The only place where the black vote truly matters is Ohio. Hopefully DWS is up there right now handing out free cell phones right and left.
True. He has been famous for being boring. He is definitely the pick of the contented moderate status quo variant. The real question is whether the electorate wants the status quo. Kaine's support of basically the status quo on Wall Street and support for the TTP are basically not in tune with the country or the progressive wing of the party.
Well, at least he is a recognizable natural human color, unlike Trump. On the other hand, Trump's burnt orange skin may help increase voter turnout in Texas.
