Why don't you go kill him then. Go buy like a tuxedo or suit or something, secret agent style, and go find out where he is located . When you get there , you ask to see Arafat... or "Fat" as you knew him growing up. You offer him a bottle of wine, and as you pour him a cup you slip something in his drink. He doesnt trust you , so he asks you to take a sip of his drink. You say okay, and just as you raise the cup towards your mouth, you shoot him under the table with your silencer-type gun. He falls over dead, and just as his guards notice.... You jump out the window.... they think you commited suicide but you jumped on top of your jet ala Marty Mcfly in Back to the Future 2. Thats the ticket....
The fact that a couple of you used the phrase "duly elected" regarding Arafat shows just how out-of-touch you are with the true nature of the PA. It's a thugocracy of the highest order, with regular public lynchings/executions of dissidents & other such "troublemakers". Hussein got 100% of the "vote" too, remember? Israel should have killed him 20 years ago, when he was an active terrorist, instead of the guy behind the scenes pulling the strings as he is now. Israel killing him now would be a de-facto declaration of war with Iran, Syria, Egypt, SA.... Go let him live the high life in Europe with his billions of UN funds & charity donations siphoned from the Palestinian people.
Oh sure, Israel is occupying your land hey take our land instead. That's r****ded. Palestinians have trouble being citizens in Israel too. Back to square one eh. Killing Arafat is window dressing. It's not a permanent solution.
Secret Agent DD???? sound like a Porno Rocket River " . . .they are also flotation devices" - Agent DD
Well why should the be citizens of those places? That's like saying that Mexicans should become Nicaraguans, or Guatemalans should become Columbians. The places you mentioned have even more cultural differences, and in many cases lingual differences. To say that the Palestinians are the problem because they aren't absorbed into some country that's foreign to them isn't reasonable.
Yet the elections were nothing like the Iraq elections. They were monitored and as fair as elections in other democracies. Arafat was elected and the fact that you compare the elections the PA held with those of the Hussein regime in Iraq shows that you are the one that's out of touch. Lynchings and executions do happen, they are just carried out by a democratically elected administration.
If you want peace in the Middle East, you'd better roll in the tanks . Sad, but it's become my position. Otherwise, let's just totally withdraw and let them blow each other to tiny little pieces.
Yes young Haven, your maturation is progressing, just as I predicted long ago. Your journey is not over yet though. I do predict that before your time is over, you will speak fondly of Ronald Reagan and donate to the RNC.
My definition of democracy is different that the one used by both of you. If Arafat was serious about democracy and making a better life available for the Palestinian people, he would have done something about the corruption, censorship & other damaging isues that have marred his rule.
btw, it is LUDICROUS to call the election of Arafat fair and democratic. It is IMPOSSIBLE to have fair elections without a free press.
Interesting you say that. Did you know that such a thing did not truly exist in the US until a decision by the Warren Court (your favorite, I assume...) in 1967? .
....but young Haven, if you argued that the United States was not a true Democracy before 1967, I would probably agree with you. After all, if the mob wouldn't have rigged the vote in 1960, we would have had President Nixon 12 years early. Once again though, the past is irrelevant to the current topic. Arafat is not a freely elected leader, because his people are indoctrinated from a young age to hate Jews with a blood lust that we cannot understand. Arafat does not deserve that respect.
You are aware that most of the Palestinians were once living in Jordan or are decended from someone who was, and were only kicked out when they tried to overthrow the government of Jordan. It would not be a huge adjustment to go back to Jordan, or to live in many other nations in the region. The problem is, nobody wants a bunch of terrorists in their country. That's why they aren't in Jordan, Lebanon, or Isreal. I think the conflict will only be resolved by ethnic cleansing, unfortunately. I hope it does not become resolved through genocide.
Not most of the Palestinians alive today. Their anscestors may have been. And the population in Jordan is more than 80% Palestinian. For thousands of years Palestinians have been on the lands they occupy more as well as some others. By your logic most Americans were from somewhere else as well. Would it be a big adjustment for most Americans to relocate to another country?
This country has elected leaders that were corrupt and one now that doesn't seem to have a huge problem with censorship. It's still a democracy. I'm not defending Arafat, and I don't think he's a good leader for the Palestinians. Nevertheless, he was elected. Even if he's a crook it doesn't change the fact that he was democratically elected.
You say the population of Jordan is 80% Palestinian, but that Palestinians would have trouble adjusting to living there? I think I could easily adapt to living in Canada, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, and many other places around the world. If a significant minority of my neighbors belonged to terrorist organizations, and a majority supported them, I think it might actually be easier to move than to stay.
Actually, 100% of Palestians and Jordanians are Arab. Palestinians have had historical problems adjusting to life in Jordan because the Jordanian military slaughters them wholesale. I believe over 20,000 Palestinians died in one night. The Arab world needs to keep those pesky Palestinians bottled up to keep the pressure on the Jewish infidel.
