Your Top 3/Favorite (hardcore) Rap Group(s) Of All Time

hmmm... i like some rap just as i like some of everything else.

the hardcore thing is what's throwing me off.

wu tang clan has got to be my favorite. the gza (i gotcha back, cold world, liquid swords... man, that was a bad ass album) is definitely the most underrated of the group. the rza's the mastermind. meth and the odb stuff got more popular among the crowds.

edit: oops... you said top three.

2. mobb deep
3. junior mafia

 

There's Public Enemy...

and everybody else

I wish they would make a comeback. [rant=10]Todays "rap" is dog poo, all of it. Rap used to be social commentary, now it's just a bunch of cliche'd copycats talking about "blinge blinge". No one is breaking down any barriers anymore. No one has anything to say. Come back, Chuck D. Come back and shut 'em down, shut em shut em down!! [/rant]

 

my rap top three:

1. kool moe dee
2. nwa
3. PE

 

If we're talking hardcore, why isn't Houston's finest in the list?

Ghetto Boys

 

My Personal Favs -

1.) Outkast (But why is their latest album 2 solo's?)
2.) Mobb Deep (Shook Ones Part II is the Mecca of flow)
3.) D-12 (New album coming soon)

 

I totally agree with you on that. I used to be a rap fan but as far as I'm concerned there just isn't any real rap anymore.

Also, I think there's a top two and then everyone else way down the list if you're talking hardcore. NWA and PE are the top two in my view. Run DMC and the Beastie Boys deserve big time mention even though they're not hardcore.

 

On this list, my clear favorite is Tribe Called Quest. So much so, that I didn't pick another...though I did like Run DMC. De La Soul was another I liked a lot.

 

This is ridiculous...your knowledge of hip hop is as ancient as PE.

What is real rap? Do you know?


Maybe you both have out grown hip hop...or you just don't like listening to someone rap on a mic anymore...thats all cool...but to act like there was a dramatic drop off in quality MCs since (your favorite old school act here) that drove you away is just weak.
Its real easy to claim hip hop has died or that MCs of today have nothing to say, but thats just because you are not listening.

 

jwun -- it just sounds very different to me...i'm not saying they're not good...i just don't like their sound. i think the west coast sound is a bit more dominant today, and i really don't like that, personally.

 

I voted for 3 of them, but I would also vote for Naughty by Nature witch may be a party rap group but they are also pretty damn hard.

Bone thugs I dont find to be hard at all.

I would say Onyx is one of the best, but body of work is limited unless you look for them. they dont have a ton of hits.

Grave diggaz was one of my all time favorites for one line only
"I've been evil ever since I was semen-
took a sonagram and saw the image of a deamon"

another favorite is Black sheep


and pretty much every song on the "Judgment Night" sound track

peace

 

The sound of rap has evolved greatly. There is southern "crunk" music, which uses heavy amounts of bass, then you have the electronic sounds of the Neptunes, who dominant the producing field at the moment. West coast sound has always been kept old school, but Dr. Dre has been producing new sounds for guys like 50 cent and Ice Cube. Then you have the simple voice talents like Nate Dogg and the Isley Brothers. Then you have just simple flow masters (Talib, Nas, Mos) where you can just listen to the words and think of them as music, which is the way hip-hop should be.

 

good one...one of my favorites, too. i don't hear that sound anymore...i don't hear the sound of tribe anymore in new music.

 

i agree with immadrummer.

rap is a sorry state right now... at least the commercial stuff is. the vast majority of the crap that's out there right now is nothing that i can remotely relate to.

i don't go to footlocker wanting to buy several puurs of shoes at one time, i don't have a quarter tank of gas in a new e-class, and i don't like the way they do that right thurr. sorry.

old stuff, imo, is better. pharcyde is the shiz.

 

No mention of Eric B. and Rakim? They are #1 in my book. I was addicted to De La Soul when their first albom came out, same with Tribe. I also really like the Jungle Brothers first album. Early Big Daddy Kane was also great, same with Biz Markie. I used to love listening to the live mixing on Magic 102, or similar station, back in the '80s.

I don't listen to today's rap much at all. I just can't relate or get into the stuff that is popular right now. I know there is some great new rap out there, but I just don't know where. I think 91.7 used to have a rap show a few years ago that featured some "underground" artists. Some of that stuff sounded really good.

 

I think your post sums it up. If you want to find substanive hip-hop, just like all forms of music these days, you're going to have to do a little searching. There are some great M.C.'s out there, they just don't get radio play because that's not what sells. Plus the industry has grown so much, the search has to be more extensive.

 

The fact that the poll even mentions the word "hardcore" kills all credibility. Even considering the Bloodhound Gang means you don't know too much about hip hop. 'Hardcore' would include Gangsta Nip, Gravediggaz, Spice 1, etc. How the hell Run DMC is considered 'hardcore' is totally beyond me. I'll take Wu Tang (just barely) as hardcore and Getto Boys too but Beastie Boys being hardcore? Get out. Get out now.

I'd have to say the number one harcore group of all time is N.W.A. with Getto Boys in close second. All of the other choices are no where near hardcore. Bone Thugz -N- Harmony hardcore? Yeah... riiiiight. ATCQ even being used in the same sentence as the word hardcore is a paradox. Considering ATCQ being all about peace during the Native Tongues days. Might as well put Arrested Development and PM Dawn up there for 'hardcore'.

 

hmmm... are you saying that this can't be my favorite hardcore rapper, dj five?