Harden is 100th in FG%........no more ball hoggin'

Harden is super efficient even with a low FG%. If he shot over 50% from the field and still average 10 FTA per game, he'd probably be the most efficient SG in basketball history.

 

When a team is dubbed the best offense in the league, it's because they are the most efficient. They excel in points per shot, points per possession, true shooting percentage and the like. The same things Harden excels at.

it's funny when people laugh off these very relevant stats because it doesn't fit the bash Harden narrative.

Harden is an elite player when it comes to offensive efficiency. Always hovering around or above .600 and on the whole this year he is below that. But let's just say after game 3 we all were rational and thought to ourselves, Harden isn't this bad he is going to get back on track efficiency wise, and we would be right.

Starting with game 4 up to this point his ts% is .593 his shooting percentages are 43/36.5/87 Right in line with his career stats.

He's been back to his normal efficient self and doing it over a long stretch since those first 3 games. Again those first 3 games happened. They count in his season long numbers, but you can't sit here and act like he's been a nightmare all season when for every game since those first 3 he's been doing what he's always been doing. Putting the ball in the basket at an elite efficient level. Right near the same efficient level that had him as the runner up MVP.

If/when he continues to do what he's been doing over the last 25 games by the end of the year those overall numbers are going to be right back in line with the guy he always has been.

It's really that simple.

 

DD is what we call........simple.

Dude is in his late 60's. Let him be.

 

If Curry is still shooting a ton of 3's and getting enough FTs so that his EFG% is still above 60%, then why do you care what his FG% is? Does the fact that a player is getting points on 3 pointers and FTs bother you for some reason ? All that matter is how efficient a player is. It doesn't matter how they score their points. So, why would you look at a stat that omits the extra points from 3's and FTs?

If a player never made a single FG attempt but they got 20 FT per game then they would be incredibly efficient (assuming that they shot FT well). FG% wise, they'd look like the worst player in the league which is why it's silly to only look at that stat.

Efficiency wise all of those players that I listed are less efficient than Harden this season. That's what matters. Overall FG% means nothing. Who would you prefer, the guy with the higher FG% or the guy that scores more points on the same number of shots?

If Curry shot nothing but 3's and ended up at 40%, would you be disappointed?

 

I agree with what you're saying, but point of order is called for in how you construct your logical retort.

Your scenario has never happened in the history of the game. In fact, no one has done it with even >56% eFG%, so it is pretty much an impossibility that t_mac1 is allowed to assume in his post.

I looked it up for my love for trivia, not to dispute you. Thought this was interesting enough to share.

There is only one person in the history of the game who has had a season of <41% FG% and >55% eFG%

*only one person in like 45 years of the 3-pt shot era.

Anyone want to guess...you won't be able to guess it....(hint: unless you follow the Bulls as much as you do the Rockets)

Spoiler

Keith Bogans -- Chicago Bulls 2011
Scored 17.8 ppg
.404 FG%
.380 3G%
.550 eFG%
.559 TS%

 

But see, it is not that simple, because it is not a one man team - you need to know if his efficiency is helping the TEAM win, or getting us anywhere.

I agree, he is a great individual scorer, but I believe the team would be better with him doing a bit less offense and a bit more defense.

DD

 

And do you have anything to back this up, other than your gut feel?

 

a lot of brickin

 

Someone get that man a triple double?

 

That was suppose to be TS% rather than eFG%. My mistake.

 

stupid thread



this picture is Rockets' PPP with/without Harden

When Harden is on court, Rockets score 1.08 point per possession
Top 4 in NBA, between Spurs and Cavs

Once Harden is off court, almost all Rockets player's ppp drop down shapely
And team can only score 0.962 points per possession, 29th in NBA, just beat 76ers

Rockets is different team with/without Harden
He is one of the best efficiency attacker in the league
And once he is on court, he will attract a lot of attention from opponent's defenders, even he shot bad on that game. That will give our other players more space to score

 

Well, answer my question? Would you regard Curry the same way if he shoots 40% compared to 53% with everything else being the same? How much would have his value drop in your opinion?

B/c Harden's stock has dropped A TON.

 

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Another stat, Harden has top 7 assist point created in the league

 

Nope, just my opinion.


DD

 

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