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Stephan Curry is unguardable...

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by sugrlndkid, Oct 31, 2015.

  1. J Sizzle

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    That's not what I said. Of course he has improved, but Kerr's system has drastically aided in that. To not acknowledge that is foolish.
     
  2. J Sizzle

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    Yeah. He could definitely shoot it well, no doubt. But Kerr's system produces so much more open looks and added efficiency, and that's not a knock on Steph at all.
     
  3. YOLO

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    how many of curry shots are truly wide open. he shoots with defenders in his face, off the dribble. take your pick, he shoots it regardless. don't make it seem like he's just sitting on wide open looks. the system doesn't let him make those shots.
     
  4. J Sizzle

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    He has many wide open looks. He has many heavily contested looks. It's not one or the other. He's obviously the best shooter of all time and obviously will be a HOF player.

    All I'm saying is to not acknowledge the vast upgrade from Mark Jackson to Steve Kerr and the effect it had on Curry's game is silly.
     
  5. UTKaluman597

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    He obviously has the ability, but it is also the roster and system they play in. When you can spread the floor and have guys who are both solid shooters AND penetrators it leads to a total collapse of the d on just about every trip down court. PNR with Green with Klay spotted up on one angle, Barnes and Iggy in the corners is lethal. All of them can shoot, all of them can drive, all of them can pass. If Curry was on just about any other team there are guys you can abandon to double team hard. I really believe the only way to slow him down is to make him play d, and make him play through contact. No more easy shots and layups where he can dance down court. He drives, you lay him out. Make him be like Wade and Iverson had to be where they were constantly picking themselves up off the court. Think that wont affect your legs at the end of the game/season?
     
  6. Krizzle

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    We need the "Curry Rules".
     
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    if he keeps those numbers up for the entire season, i'll quit watching all basketball in general.
     
  8. gah

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    Look at that smug face. But yeah, if I was this dominant, truth be told, I'd probably be, lyrically, Talib Kweli.
     
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    Repped for the Talib reference.
     
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    People used to say that Steve Nash was the product of D'Antoni's system. The fact was, Nash was already a great player with the Mavs. And it was more accurate to say that D'Antoni's system WAS Nash. Sure he had a coach that could maximize his abilities. That says more about how the coach was able to capitalize a player's greatness than about the player fitting the system.

    I remember a vintage discussion about great football players. One comment came up: "You are saying that Earl Campbell was a great running back because the Oilers ran a lot from the I-formation?" It is very simple. The Oilers ran a lot of I-formation because of Earl, not the other way around.
     
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    Exactly. It's like even Jeremy Lin can look like a great player if all you do is let him run pnr and drive all day. Because these are truly what he's good at.

    I believe players play at a higher level when they buy in or believe the coach put them in positions to succeed.
     
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    That's not quite true.

    Nash had been a two-time all star when he left Dallas in the summer of 2004. He'd been on two All-NBA 3rd teams, the last time in 2003. At that point he was about 30 and had had a down season without allstar appearance behind him (mainly because of a bad back).

    At that point, **NOBODY** was expecting him to make any 1st All-NBA-teams in the rest of his career, much less win an MVP trophy.

    Then, two things happened: the hand checking rule change and D'Antoni's system. The rest is history.
     
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    Uhhh, smug face? Do you mean smiling?
     
  14. JuanValdez

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    The Warrior-love is to keep going unabated this season. Warriors have come out hot, but ESPN has a headline saying they are off to the strongest start in history... winning 4 games. The '94 Rockets started 15-0. Warriors run up the score in 4 games, and now it's historic?

    The other thing that bothers me about the coverage of the Warriors is Draymond Green quotes. This has nothing to do with Green himself, but journalists seem to have decided it's best to render his lazy speech verbatim instead of normalizing it for text. If Stephen Curry swallows a vowel at the end of a word, or drops a verb, or contracts a couple of words that ought not be contracted, they'll patch it up. When Green does it, the journalists suddenly turn into Mark Twain.
     
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    Wait till they play the thunder. He's the best pg though right now.
     
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    Gotta send him to the hardwood a little more frequently. He'll think twice about some of the things he usually does with ease.
     
  17. YOLO

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    people keep saying that but that doesn't make much of a difference
     
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    Beware, he's the new golden boy of NBA (Adam Silver's at least, in contrast to David Stern's LeBron James). You send him to the floor on purpose, you probably get suspended 10 games. You lose 1 month of pay.
     
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    He is the golden boy and he deserves it. He and Westbrook are fantastic to watch. (Though the Westbrook acting gets to me sometimes. And the TOs when he gets outta control :eek:)
     
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    21/49 isn't 49%. it's 43%.
     

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