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WOJ: BREAKING Westbrook to Houston for CP3 & Picks!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Xerobull, Jul 11, 2019.

  1. Corrosion

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    There's a difference between taking a 3 when the defense sags off Vs a contested 3 or a 3 in transition or even a catch and shoot 3. …. Defenses back off and dare him to shoot , he's gonna knock down more than not. Its literally an uncontested shot , and at this level , even "bad" shooters can hit those with regularity.

    And defenses wont always be able to set up … which is why its important that he pushes the pace which is going to generate a lot of easy buckets , for him and everyone else.
     
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    OK, this thread is getting tedious and I'm getting bored.

    Do something Morey. Entertain me, dang it.
     
  3. HP3

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    Well here is hoping he does because if things go the way they have been for him, its gonna cause us a lot of problems on offense. At some point in the playoffs teams are going to sag off him and it WILL be a problem(ala Giannis and Simmons).

    Yea thats gonna be nice, the pace being a lot higher will definitely be something i look forward to.
     
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    I’ll give you memes in the meanwhile

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  5. Corrosion

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    If that's the criteria , Harden got to the second round without a second star ….
     
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    Makes no sense. By his logic, jokic and Murray should be better than Lebron and AD and PG and Kawhi, but you never hear nonsense like this when it’s not HOUSTON...
     
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  7. Corrosion

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    I really don't thinks his shooting is as big a deal as people make it out to be.

    Think of a possession where Russ grabs the board and pushes the ball up court , is defended well and has no play at the rim , the corner shooters are covered ….. Harden is the trailer. Just kick it out to Harden Capela can go high for a PnR or stay on the baseline ...
    At that point a defender cant just leave Russ alone - and he doesn't necessarily have to run to the 3 point line either , he has a lot of options along the way to getting to that corner spot , many of which lead to layups if the defender makes a mistake …. and the best offensive player in the game has the ball in his hands facing a defense that's already had pressure applied.

    I dunno , that's my vision for this offense when they play together.

    That really doesn't change a whole lot when Rus is with the 2nd unit either … you just don't have Harden as your trailer , its either Rivers or EG and neither are bad options if the defense has been put under pressure , someone's getting an awful lot of open top of the key 3's as a result of Rus creating havoc.

    The pace is the key to that tho …. they have to get it up the court in a hurry and that fits right in Mike Dan and Tony's wheelhouse ….
     
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  8. HP3

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    Yes, it is. When it was historically bad like the last two years, it absolutely was. He is the worst volume 3 point shooter of all time and I hate to say im not exaggerating.

    Yes, this is a perfect vision which i can get behind ABSOLUTELY. This will be perfect way for our offense to run. But you know that is very very VERY dependent on, Russ making good decisions every time, he CANNOT go bonkers, he has to stay in control and has to stay that way. This is really one of the biggest tests of Dantoni's career, getting Russ to buy in. I truly hope that he can.

    And you know part of getting out in transition....is getting stops, which is another big concern, defense. Ugh...man, there are so many question marks with this trade.
     
  9. Corrosion

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    Well … if they didn't make the trade , they may as well have blown it up cause that window was slammed shut .. Cp3 just wasn't gonna get it done , Father Time is undefeated.

    WestBrick being younger & healthier opens that window again , IF he buys inn ….


    I'll take that over paying a broken player 35% of the cap. I cant believe Morey got out of that deal and brought in a former MVP for what may actually amount to absolutely nothing at all.
     
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  10. Corpusfan

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    The way people are doing mental gymnastics to argue that Westbrook is a good fit here, despite mountains of evidence to the contrary, sounds a lot like what people were saying when they signed Melo, Hopefully the results are better this time. It just seems like Westbrook is the antithesis of the kind of player who fits in the Morey/D'Antoni system.
     
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  11. topfive

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    Same here, BUT...

    None of us think that Russ was less than the 2nd or 3rd best player in the league that year, though Harden was the best. Don’t hold it against Westbrook when it was the media who was so dazzled by that triple-double average.
     
  12. Rox11

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    All those points are valid but the trade itself was about none of those things.

    It was about cp3 being unhappy.
    It was about the ratio of his massive contract to his regression.
    It was about getting a player back who is younger, athletic, plays with passion and above all else is friends with the best player on the team ( oh and they play well together )
     
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  13. HP3

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    You know it is possible that Cp plays better next year than he did this year. At the end of the day, our defense when he was on the floor as well as him being a floor general looks like a better fit to Harden no matter how you slice it. There is no guarantee we wouldn't be competing with Cp still on the roster.

    This move has high ceiling and very low floor written all over it. We'll see what happens.
     
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  14. D-rock

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    Harden was the best 6th man that season. Like saying Lou Will or EGo not important.

    Ridiculous stance.
     
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  15. JW86

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    Looks good, glad we got the new jerseys.
     
  16. J.R.

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    THE KELLERMAN HAS SPOKEN

    Will it work? Will it work better than it did with CP3 to the point they'll be better than the Clippers, Lakers, Nuggets, Jazz, Blazers? No. Westbrook/Harden on the Rockets is not better than Harden/CP3 to the point this team is better than the Lakers/Clippers which means they won't get any further in the playoffs which means it doesn't work.

    Westbrook has to be on ball. He can't shoot a lick. He has to be primary ball handler.

    CP3 is in decline physically to the point that contract is a problem. You may say so with Westbrook but he is younger & more athletic. What Morey did here is turn CP3 into a superior player at this point in their careers. In that sense they got better. Did they get better enough to overcome other teams in the West? No they didn't. This is a 2nd round playoff team and not inconceivable they could get knocked out in the first round.
     
  17. ch44

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    The deal hasn't been officially announced because it could still potentially turn into a 3 or 4 team trade with the Rockets picking up an extra asset along the way. Still hearing that RoCo is the higher priority than Iggy and the extra salary they can take in with this trade is a great opportunity to get it done.
     
  18. treyk3

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    CH44 WITH THE BOMBBBBB
     
  19. JW86

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    Hell yea! Covington over Iggy baby :)
     
  20. Rocket River

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    Honestly. . . .. . people would not be satisfied either way
    Keep CP3 .. . Trade him . . .. . the exact same people will still be b!tching

    Rocket River
     

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