With harden on this team, no hope to win a championship

Sorry, this is as good as it gets.

If you aren't happy with this team or its players, then go find a new one.

Harden will be the core of this team for the next 5+ years. If you can't deal with it, move on.

 

This could be the longest season in Clutchfans history. One of the best records in the league yet people think we've already missed the playoffs.

 

OP wants us to get the 14th pick

According rep is given to u

 

Harden for kawhi leonard...good gosh the GARM has gone full r****d.

 

What really amazes me is people complaining and b****ing about having top 5 SG in the NBA, for god's sake it's been two games only get a grip.
I wonder what everyone's reaction including the OP if Harden is traded for a couple of role players and couple of picks..!!!

 

its not as bad as it looks if a draft pick is added on. scoring is not an issue for the team, brooks/cassipi/garcia/beverly can all EASILY score 10+ a game given more shots and parson/lin can score 20+ with more minutes ... defense is the issue.

 

Probably the same as OKC's after Harden trade. I don't mind Harden's shooting slumps, but I fear he is dragging the team down with his attitude and spreading the no effort / laziness virus.

 

I hope alot of posters on clutch fans got talked off the ledge tonight.

 

harden is the same player as monte ellis, demar derozan, and kevin martin, all offense, no defense. how is that top 5 sg?

 

I think the op made a very stupid thread.

I really think Harden is still injured and for some reason nothing is being said about it. Just think how he moved and acted in the preseason and how he is moving and acting right now. It's hard for me to believe he is healthy right now.

 

This is still a stupid thread.

Many of us have watched every game since and before 2008.

Harden is a great player that is playing bad right now. Whether it is due to injury or something else who knows, but I'm sure he will return to form soon and improve over last year.

By the way, Tmac was a great player for the Rockets, you were wrong there also.

 

Yeah there's a good chance that Harden is still injured, is trying to play through the pain, and just ends up not being able to put in the effort (particularly when he doesn't have the ball and isn't "forced" to perform with it - i.e., on defense or off-ball offense).

The coaching staff needs to figure out if this is the case, because if it is then they need to either let him sit next to Lin until he's fully healed or severely cut back on his minutes (including practice) so his foot can at least stay manageable and he can play hard for 20 minutes instead of half-assed for 40. Then maybe once Lin comes back they can let him figure out what's wrong.

I would not be surprised at all to learn that the medical staff is basically jamming his foot full of cortisone so that he can play, with no idea what is actually wrong beyond "swelling" and "pain". Without something showing up on an x-ray or MRI, that is basically what foot doctors do even when you aren't on the payroll of a professional sports team. They tell you to rest until it goes away, and then if it doesn't they inject you with cortisone to manage the swelling. And then they tell you to rest until it goes away.

 

You are either just trying to vent, or you are actually just a nut case. If you are just trying to vent then I understand. People get mad and disappointed. If you are just a nut case, then find a new team to cheer for. I swear, when I first found this board in 2002 or so, the quality of fans where so much better. They were actually fans. Now its full of other team's fans that disguise themselves in order to trash our team, or just over dramatic nut jobs/babies. Its okay to be critical of players, but man some people go wayyyyyy overboard.

 

How is the finger always being pointed towards Harden, when clearly the whole team plays poor defense in the losses we have incurred. Yes Harden is a terrible defensive play, but he is the heart of this team. Any person that thinks we can get equal value in any plausible trade needs to stop watching basketball and maybe switch to tennis or something. WE NEED HARDEN to win at the next level. The season is still young, we still have 61 games to go, look for this team to GEL and get better here down the stretch. GO ROCKETS.

 

Honestly we shouldn't have lost the last two games but OP needs to keep in mind that we don't have Parsons or Lin on the floor and Harden is still recovering from the foot bruise deal.

You seriously think the Rocket's organization is going to let their franchise player skip more games than needed when it comes to their health? No games played by Harden = less ticket sales sold.

On another note, Harden does need to start playing some defense though.

 

Well said. It is easier for these people to blame one person than to see the big picture. Same with Lin haters or Howard haters etc.

 

I think your best players have to give the best effort on defense even if they're not good defeders. It makes the coaches ability to jump on the lesser players more reasonable. Harden is not giving good effort defensively. Nobody ever called tony parker gary payton,but he gives good effort so it doesn't seem one sided. The rockets as a whole aren't playing good defense. If the magic with howard were a top 4 defense despite not having any lockdown defenders,I don't see why this team can't be at least top 10 with howard. They need to give a better effort defensively and that starts with Harden. I don't really want to hear about him being hurt. His effort level offensively is there,so why can't it be there defensively also?