Gordon already has 2 seasons left on his deal, a 2 year extension would lock him up for 4 seasons. Gordon is going to turn 30 this year, meaning he’d be locked up until he’s 34. For an injury prone player, a 2 year extension is the most he’s getting at his age.
I think Rockets would want a third/fourth year TO. I'd have to imagine EG would have some role to play in 4-5 years.
Giving Gordon a 2-yr extension lines him up perfectly with Harden's and CP's contracts from a Rockets perspective. And having Gordon locked up 4 total years at a team friendly price (versus FA price in 2020) would make him a decent trade chip if the team needs to pivot.
Is there still anyone on CF who thinks Morey hasn’t knocked it out of the park time and time again this summer? -Re-upped CP3 for 4 years -Re-upped Capela for 5 years at about 30-40 mil less than comparable centers -Is getting Melo for the league minimum, WHATWHATWHAT -Found the upgrade of Luc (Ennis) -Found a quality reserve PG in the draft (Melton) and a quality reserve C in the summer league (Hartenstein) -Re-signed Gerald Green and got a quality wing defender (MCW) -Could have a deal in place shipping out Ryno for a quality 3&D player (the upgrade of Ariza) -Could extend Gordon! -Still has most of the MLE available for the top buyout candidates after the deadline
I like the idea of a 2 year extension for Gordon. He's clearly worked his butt off while with Houston, has been outstanding on the court (excepting a shooting dry spell here and there, which happens to the best from time to time), is a good teammate, and has managed to stay healthy. I think he's earned it, as long as it's reasonable.
i agree with like 90% of what you said! A) CP3 getting 4 years instead of 5 was great. can't ask CP3 to take less money or years since he gave up $10M to come here last year. A) Capela is a downright steal and locked in for all 5 years! B+) melo for the vet min. if he has no problem standing in the corner most of the time, and doesn't mind the minutes reduction it could be an A. otherwise the defensive liability and the chucking might get in the way at times. B+ just for his overall talent to price ratio. B) Green is back for the vet min, good deal, obviously not as impactful as top 3 on the list, but still a plus deal. B) ennis on the vet min to add wing depth in the wake of ariza and luc departing. B) drafting melton. could be an A if he actually works his way into the rotation in a year or two. but the fact that he's not signed means he might have played his way into having trade value over the summer. that alone is a B. not sure if he's a quality reserve just yet. C+) signing hartenstein. good deal from a potential/price ratio. nice that its partially NG. who knows if he ever plays. C-) luc leaving over $2M. maybe morey knows his shoulder will never be right. maybe luc was tired of standing in the corner on O. maybe we needed to see if the MLE had to go to win the melo lotto. all would justify not offering luc more than the minimum. however we could have matched the clippers offer and didn't so without knowing the reason why it just seems like a loss of talent for a matchable price. INC) gordon extension. if it ends when harden and paul's end, and doesn't pay him more than capela per year. then its an A. INC) ryno trade. INC) holding the MLE. if we are going to spend it, it should've gone to luc. so even a solid signing during buyout season isn't really as good as having luc all year. again, depends on the reasons luc wanted to leave / morey didn't want to offer more than the minimim / timing of the melo buyout. but if we use it on someone, the comparison will be if they are more useful than luc. INC) ariza leaving. ariza did want to leave and it is a high price to match, and it would've meant having to spend 2 picks to dump ryno for tax relief. IF we get an ariza replacement for ryno for less than 2 picks, then letting him walk was a good move. if we don't really replace him (like ryno for shump and koufos) then letting him walk was the wrong move. overall good summer so far. some things like ariza and luc leaving might end up being bad moves that really hurt us. no ryno move would be given a bad grade but of course some will be better than others. and i'm sure the gordon extension will be team friendly or at least fair, or morey won't extend.
Give him the 2/30m extension. Good for him he’s earned it. Locks him into 4 more years which mimics harden/cp3/Clint Plus the cap will prob go up over the next 4 years making the deal even better for the team. And having him locked up for 4 more years at under 60m is a very very tradable asset. Guys like Gordon are what teams like GS will want and need when they realize how much money someone like klay Thompson is gonna cost. I’m just throwing ideas on the wall but I could see GS trading klay for Gordon there salaries match up right now or should I say are very close but in a year klay will be making almost double what he’s getting now. Not a trade idea but just something I’m sure GS would atleast entertain and it’s good value.
these are two really important points. we will probably go full rebuild after paul and harden's contracts expire. we don't want a 34 year old gordon taking up any cap. and of course he's our most valuable trade chip when looking for another star (butler?) so we need him on a friendly deal. the good news is that if its not a team friendly deal we dont have to extend him. however i think it will be. capela set the bar, gordon won't make more than that.
@smoothie It is my belief that Luc's shoulder was an issue. Like, it would be a gamble. A gamble they would be willing to take as a Vet Min+120% raise, but not a gamble they were willing to take for full T-MLE and the loss of an opportunity cost.
Keep in mind paying Cuban $1.54m v waiving is being called a "no brainer" by some. That's a bolder statement than me illustrating there is tangible risk in lost opportunity here. You're making a lot of assumptions in your quote above, while I'm just advocating letting Morey have all his asset-building toys, which he likes and uses, and think saving $3.5m is "misplaced." Regarding your list of assumptions: You assume the 52nd pick/Edwards was Plan A to get more picks. How do you know 70% of the pool was more than needed last draft? That assumes Morey didn't have an opportunity to buy a better one, but was limited to $1.5m. It is true that no one succeeded in buying a juicy, top 2nd rounder for pure cash, like Bell, Llull and Parsons (earlier). So maybe the GMs are stopping that stuff after the Bell purchase. But, even still, the 37th pick, Gary Trent was purchased by packaging future 2nds with cash. Moving up with cash is still a thing. You assume this trend will hold. That assumption is completely unnecessary, if you are willing to pay $3.5m in tax. You assume more cash won't be used prior to the draft. There is a likelihood a Ryan trade will burn more of that cash pool. That would be well spent, but highlights that we could burn all of it, such that the Onuaku trade v waive stops Morey from buying an Edwards pick. As @Deuce said, saving tax is a matter of degree. Ideally, it doesn't matter at all! But if it does, it doesn't then mean you try to save tax in every move, to every degree. You measure risk/reward. There is undeniable risk here in possible lost opportunity, just like there would be in selling a 2nd round pick to pay for taxes, or not using all the MLE, for tax reasons. It isn't a "no brainer."
Just offer him 1million for every time he can drive the ball from the arc and make a layup without falling or fumbling it to turning it over... we might be able to get him for the Vet Min.
3 years 24 to 36 mil maybe (ie 8 to 12 mil per year.. or 8 to 10% of cap for backup PG). He's 29 with a injury history of his own. Morey wants to sign people that can outplay their contract. Morey doesn't need to over pay now like he did with Anderson since he got his 3 main pieces locked down (Harden, CP3, Capela)
You make a good point HeyP. I assume that Daryl Morey has "new math" that will offset any opportunity lost, and that he has likely already calculated/projected something juicy that could make the moves you suggest nondescript anyway. I find it highly unlikely that he is being driven into these moves. Daryl has always struck a happy balance of innovation and taking care of the owner's cash when need be. From Les to Til, that hasn't changed. Also, let's see how he uses (or doesn't use) the trade exception.
