Why is everyone against upgrading at PG (in the near future)?

HE does not deserve his contract out of 35 games I assume. You GTFO.

 

LoL feel so sorry for OP.

 

YOU do not deserve the contract that is from the post of the thread in which the contract is threaded, which is to say that assumed, or dersevered, or contracted of which is therefore will not be so. You GTFO.

 

The Key thing to point out ... is that of that list, everybody except Dragic, Conley and Lowry are on their rookie contracts. If Lin was signed as a 1st round pick or a 2nd round pick on two years guaranteed and two years team option like Morey likes to do, then he's still be on a Chandler Parsons contract and still in New York (or GSW).

Lowry is cheap because he was a restricted free agent, limiting the number of teams that threw money at him. And he was shooting 27% from 3pt range for the season when that contract was signed.

Dragic got an extra year plus player option. Similar number of games started as Lin before the contract. And he was unrestricted free agent. And Conley signed his contract (extension after 3rd yr if I recall correctly) coming off a 12pts/5.3assists in 32min, not exactly spectacular and to this day, most would still agree Lowry is the better player.

The going rate for that second contract - Holiday, Lawson, Curry, and Jennings, Irving, Wall, Rubio etc is going to be $10M/yr to theoretically near max for Wall & Rubio, and Max for Irving.

It just so happend Lin signed his second contract after two years in the league as opposed to 4 years for the 1st round picks. And part of the reason why he is still inconsistent.

That's how I would analyze Lin's contract relative to the others, and that is that Morey screwed Lowry, Conley was easily worse than Lin when he got his second contract, and Dragic and Morey couldn't come to agreement over a player's option but he got an extra year than Lin, for essentially the same 20-odd games as a starter (except Dragic didn't have the same impact as Lin, and his starting PG gig ended with a thud with Rockets faltering down the stretch and out of the playoffs), and that every other player on that list that will come off their rookie scales in the next year or two, will get more money than Lin, and more security (two more years).

 

i think pg is our weakest position. finding a starter or even a backup would be good

 

Jimmer can shoot without the ball?!

 

Probably not then again it is what the market would bear.

Are you envious or jealous?

 

Jimmer plays 9 minutes a game for one of the worst teams in the league. But you want him to play starting PG for us, merely for 3 pt shooting? Giving up one of our only 3 playmakers for that? I laughed initially because it was surprising that there are Jimmer fans around still. But your actual reason is even worse.

Unless you're basing your reasoning on the 113 minutes he's played this season... talk about small sample size...

But hey - according to basketball-refence, he'll score 23.9 per 36 and his shooting splits will be .51-.87-.45!!!

 

You are right, the Rockets really need to upgrade the PG position. On top of getting ride of Lin, they should,

1. Dump Harden to get Wade;
2. Dump Asik to get D. Howard;
3. Dump 2Pat to get Gasol;
4. Get ride of Parson to get L. James.

 

I agree. When can CP3 be signed?

 

Jimmer would be better than Douglas by default. I would like to see that happen.

 

You're good!

 

Screw CP3 let's get little Chris to run the point.

 

Due to Jeremy Lin's contract status, you could look at his value a couple different ways.

One is whether or not he's playing at a $5mil level right now, and if in two years he will become a max player - aka, a star. I think most fans have resigned themselves to the fact that Lin won't be a consistent threat like he was during Linsanity, so no.

Another is whether or not he's playing at a $8mil level, and assume he will never improve. Again, I believe most fans do think Jeremy Lin will improve, so it's not necessary to use the value $8mil against Lin unless comparing two similar contracts/players side by side.

I think Lin should be measured on his potential. The fact that he's not shooting well right now makes it difficult for Lin to justify his contract - he would have to make huge improvements in shooting to even out his current performance. But even with his current status considered, I do believe Lin will end up being an $8mil player in his second year with the Rockets, and who knows after that?

 

First i would like to say i don't believe Lin's better then most on this list
Lin against

Jrue Holiday- out played him scored 16 in 4Q =Team won:grin:
Kyle Lowry - Out played him ,shut him down = Team won :grin:
Brandon Jennings- got out played twice= team lost 2
John Wall- canceled each other out = team won
Mike Conley- got out played = team lost
Ty Lawson- got out played = Team lost
Ricky Rubio - out played him = Team won:grin:
Goran Dragic- have not played yet
Stephen Curry- have not played yet
Kyrie Irving -canceled each other out twice= team won 2
WestBrook- got slightly outplayed =team lost Big

 

A. Lin isn't playing that poorly. It's actually better than I expected.

B. It's hardly December!

 

Combination of contract situation and upside.

Lin has a high ceiling. If you believe he's playing up to his potential right now, well, I just think you're wrong and there is no way around that.

His struggles lately, they make it seem less likely he'll reach his ceiling, but the potential is there, and it's tantalizing.

If you try to trade Lin right now, you're probably selling low, and you may even have to pay people (in the form of a draft pick or prospect) to get back equal value on the court.

Now in magical fairy-land where CP3 says "I want to be a Rocket and I'll take a pay cut to do it", or Rondo falls into our laps 'cause Boston loves what we've got to offer or something, then sure.

But I sure as hell can't think of a realistic scenario where trading Lin is a good idea right now.

 

Just curious, what kind of performance/stats you expect from Lin in order to justify him as a 8mil player, in terms of points/assists/rebounds/steals/TOs?

thank you.

 

That's a good question the sceptics (nicer word than haters) would not like to answer

 

That's how good he is.