Who's a bigger jerk executive than Joe Dumars?

FB,

From some of the stuff I have read today, this may have been more of an owner decision, rather than a Dumar's decision. More about this should leak out in the coming days. Joe has always been a class guy (from his playting days mainly) and I would be suprised to learn that Joe himself, went to the owner's and recommended this, rather than the other way around.

Here is an article that was posted by Ric Bucher:

http://espn.go.com/nba/columns/bucher_ric/1561441.html

 

You know, when the guy that got fired was nice and friendly and thanking the guy that fired him at the newsconference... maybe it wasn't a "jerk" move, but a mutual parting.

 

Joe Dumars is a class act and a brilliant GM.

 

Who's a bigger jerk?

Larry Brown?

The guy who fired Rudy T?

Ricky Davis?

Kobe???

 

is dumars getting the full credit for obtaining memphis' 2nd pick? i thought it was their previous manager (who's now working for the sonics) who set it up.

 

He's the guy who bribed Orlando to delay sending their pick to Memphis that would've fulfilled the trade requirement from Otis Thorpe. Orlando recieved a 2nd round pick from Detroit just by waiting a day.

 

"Jerk" has a secondary meaning: sucker, mark, one who got played.

I don't think Dumars, or whoever made this call in Detroit, is the first kind of jerk. There's nothing wrong with doing what you think you have to do to get to the next level, as long as you honor your contracts.

But the only way Dumars/Davidson doesn't look really stupid here is if:

1. They sign Larry Brown
2. The Pistons make it to the finals

If they sacked Carlisle only to lose Brown, then no comment necessary. But if they fire Carlisle, pay Brown $6 million more per year, and still win 50 games and don't make the finals, then they still look like jerks.

 

I don't know the decision to axe Carlisle was Dumars' alone. If it was, that's pretty damn cold.

But Dumars has proven himself to be a BRILLIANT basketball mind -- so if he thinks the team is better off without Carlisle, maybe they are.

Dropping Carlisle the way they did, though, is pretty bush league.

 

From the articles today, the owner was fed up with Carlisle's attitude toward everyone except the team. Carlisle was a total jerk to everyone (owner, front office, etc) apparently.

Chauncey Billups echoed this in an interview saying that with the players, Carlisle was fine, but he couldn't treat the other people the way he did and not expect consequences.

 

Okay Mrs. Dumars...

 

You do realize the NBA named their sportsmanship award after Joe Dumars and he was named Exec of the year this year.

I don't think saying he's considered a class act and brilliant is a particular stretch.

 

By the way, Carlisle will now get a higher paying gig with more power right away. By acting quickly, it allowed both sides to get what they really wanted. That's why Carlisle was at the press conference and cracking jokes. He didn't want to get fired, but he was put in the best possible position he could ever hope for to get the job he wanted.

 

And maybe, just maybe, you're ill informed. Carlisle wasn't a saint. Dumars isn't the anti-christ.

Read this: http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/5992778.htm

 

Krauss

 

I've also seen articles where it was stated the owner was going to fire him regardless.

 

I bet Carlisle wishes he hadn't gone in to talk about that extension now!

The thing about Carlisles success is that he did it <b>again</b> with at least three new players (Rip, the Turk and the Prince) playing major minutes.