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Who will be the #1 pick for the Houston Texans?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Drewdog, Oct 21, 2001.

  1. gr8-1

    gr8-1 Contributing Member

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    Major should be in the nfl next year. It's like the announcer said during the OSU game, there are not 96 qb's better than Major. If Detmer and Leaf are employed, why not Major?
     
  2. JeffB

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    I cast my vote for McKinnie. A good left tackle (an OL) will improve your passing game and running game (and consequently your defense is helped by the better running game). Also, like TheFreak said, O-linemen have very long careers.
     
  3. VesceySux

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    Granted, Quincy Carter is athletic and has some tools, but I saw him up close and personal. The guy just could not throw a tight spiral if his life depended on it. His arm strength was "meh," and his accuracy was average. Don't get me wrong, though. He was a super nice guy, and I wish him well, but the Cowboys could've done much better with their 2nd round pick last year...
     
  4. TexasG

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    Agreed. I think his problem with the inability to throw spirals is because he grips the ball to tight. That may have more to do with nerves. I think he just needs 1 more year of experience before he improves.

    Back to Texans ... what about Roy Williams from OU. Now I know OU is not very popular in H-Town but having a huge play making SS can hurt your defense.
     
  5. Hey Now!

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    no. they get the first overall in rd. 1, and then the first and 15th picks in rounds 2-6, and the first, 15th and last pick of the seventh -- 14 picks overall.

    they're free to do whatever they want with their picks, no strings attached.

    building with the defensive tackles as your foundation is en vogue again, thanks to the ravens, but maryland was drafted in 1991 while smith was picked in 1990.

    long way to go, but if either is picked in the top 5, it'll be a mistake. they're late first round picks at best, and not franchise QB's.

    of course, the mitigating factor is that both danny-boy snyder and jerrah jones have top five picks next year, so they could go in the top five, but they shouldn't.

    no SS has ever been picked #1 overall in the history of the nfl draft and if it happens next year, i'll shut down the web site and (gasp) become a cowboy fan.
     
  6. Smokey

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    Cause Major is going to be an assistant on Mack's staff next year. Five years from now, when OU is a thorn in Mack's side like FSU is to UNC, Major will ascend to the throne and become the next coach of The University ;)

    Then all "Simms haters" will have free reign over DKR TMS while "Opie haters" will be relegated to the upperdeck north endzone of the newly expanded stadium.

    I must be posting drunk :D
     
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  7. TexasG

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    First let me say that I appreciate the way you responded to my post. You made your point without bashing my views. As for Maryland, and Smith being taken in the same draft my bad, you're right Maryland was taken in '91. He was the cornerstone for the D-Line though. I still don't think you can go wrong with a DT though. Look at how much improve the Eagles are on defense since drafting Corey Simon not to mention what the Browns have accomplished this year since taking a DT.

    As for a SS not being taken with the first overall pick, that's true but Roy Williams is going to be something special in the NFL. How many CB's were taken top five prior to Deion? Not saying he's going to be Deion but taking someone that can turn out to be better than Darren Woodson or John Lynch would definately be a plus. I personally think he's going to have a bigger impact on the NFL than Jammer. Jammer reminds me too much of Bryant Westbrook. Besides Vasher is better DB than Jammer in my opimion.
     
  8. VinceCarter15

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    I don't know much about college football, but I think Ken Dorsey I don't know if he is a senoir or what can some body clarify that for me.:D
     
  9. Puedlfor

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    Bryant Westbrook was Pro Bowl bound before suffering a season-ending injury last year.
     
  10. gr8-1

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    The Henderson kid from the fake ut is supposed to be a freak. He's 6'7", and he's quicker than I am. :D Also Peppers is a possibility. Of course, I would rather go for a DT first, they seem harder to block, imo.

    Snyder is supposedly enamored with Simms.

    I like Harrington as well. He looks to have a strong arm and seems to be a heady decision maker.

    Let's not forget about Scott Bacula over at ATM.
     
  11. Hey Now!

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    not sure when those guys were taken, though i'm fairly certain neither was a first rounder. the oilers had a string of really good SS's in the late 80's, early 90's (bostic, mcdowell and bishop) and none was taken higher than the 2nd round. in fact, bishop was the team's last pick in '93.

    SS's a position that doesn't require a slew of physical skills -- you don't have to necessarily be big if you can hit, speed isn't a make-or-brake issue, again, if you can hit. so it's one of the easier positions on the defensive side of the ball to fill. any rangy LB who's not quite big enough to play LB in the NFL can play SS for you.

    as for the DT, i was serious -- teams are taking a baseball-like approach to their defense: strong up the middle. the ravens had woodsen, lewis and siragusa and then went out and got adams and it really solidified their defense.

    the texans, though, could be different -- capers has a history with the 3-4, which means you're going to need a pass rushing end and/or olb, which is why peppers, right now, is such an intriguing and likely fit. he could very much do in houston what hardy did in jacksonville, lathon did in carolina and lloyd did in pittsburgh, all under capers.

    right now, julius peppers is my first pick.
     
  12. TexasG

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    That's true, I didn't think Caper's and the 3-4 defense. In that case Pepper's would be a good fit. What LB's are comming out this year?
     
  13. SamCassell

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    Would the Texans really run a 3-4? Seems like an antiquated system in today's NFL. I don't believe there's a single team anymore that goes with it.
     
  14. TexasG

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    You're right there's not. However Caper's was better at running it than anyone else. Everyone saw how Strahan disrupted the Rams offense, imagine what would happen if Warner had 2 or 3 LB's rushing him on every play.
     
  15. Rocketman95

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    I really don't think a defensive lineman should be the number one pick in any draft if he goes tackleless in a game, opponent not withstanding.

    So, I'll be one pissed off puppy if we take Peppers.
     
  16. Hey Now!

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    you could be right, though pittsburgh might -- i haven't seen them play this year.

    and no one knows what kind of defense they'll run -- i'm pretty certain the personnel will, to some degree, dictate that. same for offensive schemes. it's likely they have a preference, and capers did run the 3-4, so... it was a somewhat educated guess.

    texasg, there are several good sites with info on the 2002 draft (such as who's coming out, etc.). (warning, overt plug coming in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...) i'd first, of course, recommend our site (http://www.houstonprofootball.com/draft).

    tsn has a really good 2002 draft preview section that focuses on just seniors.

    to answer your question more directly, the best OLB available next year are kalimba edwards, levar fisher, napoleon harris and james allen -- all seniors, all set to be in the 2002 draft.
     
  17. Rocketman95

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    I think I heard yesterday that Pittsburgh may be the only NFL team to run a 3-4.

    It's my favorite defense on NCAA 2002, but after 2 straight national championships with Baylor (how do you like them apples, shanna ;) ), it doesn't much work on the Heisman level. :mad:
     
  18. Puedlfor

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    Pittsburgh does run the 3-4, it's why they drafted Hampton in the first round, because they needed a good Nose Tackle to properly run that scheme.

    And I would still like Henderson or McKinnie.
     
  19. Ottomaton

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    The thing about D-Ends in a 3-4 is that they don't have to necessarily be 'great' pass rushers, and they also need to be on the bigger side. Most of your pass rush comes from the OLB's. Someone like Jevon Kerse would most likely have to move to OLB in a 3-4. Also it is REALLY important to get a massive NT to anchor the line. Think Ted Washington in his prime. Maybe even a Gilbert Brown. A 3-4 usualy relies on the D Linemen to more 'hold the line' than burst gaps. This frees up the LB's to make plays.

    Also, if you want to see the impact that a SS can have on the game, look at John Lynch or Adam Archuleta have on the game. They're both 1/2 linebacker and 1/2 DB, and they add so much to a defense. Both have a big impact on the game, anchoring the D against the run and providing help in passing situations.
     
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    Intresting comments by Mel Kiper on ESPN.COM:


    After another dominating performance by North Carolina DE Julius Peppers against Clemson on Saturday, I'm projecting the gifted 6-6, 290-pounder as the early favorite to become the Houston Texans' first draft choice and the first pick overall in the 2002 NFL draft.

    DE Julius Peppers leads North Carolina in interceptions with three, including this one vs. Florida State.
    While Peppers is a fourth-year junior, there have been indications for a while that he would bypass his final season of college eligibility and enter the draft.

    After Peppers led the nation with 15 sacks last season, there was some speculation that he was considering a jump to the NFL as a third-year sophomore. Fortunately for the Tar Heel faithful and UNC head coach John Bunting, a candidate for Coach of the Year, that wasn't the case.

    Peppers has keyed a dramatic turnaround of UNC's fortunes this season. In seven games, Peppers has recorded 43 tackles, including 17 stops behind the line of scrimmage, 8½ sacks and a team-best three interceptions.


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    DE Julius Peppers leads North Carolina
    in interceptions with three, including this
    one vs. Florida State.
     

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