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Who Has a Better History of Big Men? LA Lakers or Houston Rockets

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Who Has a Better History of Big Men? LA Lakers or Houston Rockets

  1. Lakers

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  2. Rockets

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  1. BEAT LA

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    So i can throw out the word homer and have a valid argument for anything.

    I bet anything this kid has never ever seen hakeem play 1 game.

    Hakeem is the only player in the game who won a championship without another all star. Shaq had penny, kobe, wade, nash, lebron, pierce, garnett, rondo, allen, and many more all stars.
     
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  2. liveguy

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    Shaq even said himself Dream was better than him.
     
    #42 liveguy, Jun 17, 2013
  3. crash5179

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    I watched Moses dominate Kareem in the Play-offs with the Rockets and again in the Finals with Philly.

    I watched as Dream lead the Rockets past the Lakers and out played Kareem

    Kareem was not able to get the Lakers or anyone else to the Finals without Oscar Roertson or Magic Johnson leading the way.

    Kareem won 4 NBA MVPs prior to the merger when Dr J was winning ABA MVPs and was widely regarded as the best player on the planet, not Kareem. After the merger Kareem won 2 MVPs while Moses won 3 getting 2 of them while on the Rockets.

    While Kereem was never able to lead any team to the finals both Moses and Dream lead their teams to the Finals and NBA Championships.

    I would take Dream and Moses over Kareem every day all day.
     
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    It's funny how hasty we Rockets fans are to point fingers at each other for being homers. Having a contrary opinion doesn't count as objectivity.
     
    #44 napalm06, Jun 17, 2013
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    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/-BL4KnNGyAk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
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    dream is not better than shaq

    Shaq DOMINATED like I've never seen another man dominate.
     
    #46 TheBeard, Jun 17, 2013
  7. tinman

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    The ones who say shaq is better aren't rockets fans
     
    #47 tinman, Jun 17, 2013
  8. crash5179

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    Did you ever see them play? I did. Moses was better and outplayed him on the court in the post season, both with Houston and again in Philly. Moses was a true alpha male and simply the best center in the NBA during his prime.

    It's not like it should be a shock. Moses won 3 NBA MVPs and 1 NBA Finals MVP while he and Kareem were in their primes.
     
    #48 crash5179, Jun 17, 2013
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    Should you throw Wilt in there then? He was a freak of nature in his time. Not many 7 footers back when he played which made it easier to dominate and get all his 60 and 100 point games. What would be his avg in today's game?
     
    #49 pass_to_Hakeem, Jun 17, 2013
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    We need to defend the history of the rockets
     
    #50 tinman, Jun 17, 2013
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    LOL couldn't disagree more. Shaq was 400 lbs and dropped stepped at broke the rim. He was a great center because of his size and power obviously and yeah he had the weight and girth to use it and become a HOF'er BUT NO WAY / NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!!! Was he as skilled "all around" as Hakeem
    caMOWN man, lets get REAL!!!
     
    #51 pass_to_Hakeem, Jun 17, 2013
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    And he proved more than once. But, I have to agree (even though I voted for the Rockets-no apologies, I'm a homer) that LA has a great history of big men.
     
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    I never really watched him play. NBA was not on TV a lot in those days. All I know is that he was a high rebounding high scoring forward. I try not to judge to much based on height since guys like Wes Unseld (center) and Charles Barkley were about the same height.
     
    #53 crash5179, Jun 17, 2013
  14. Roxlove

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    This.
    I like Shaq and all, but compared to Hakeem? Come on. Shaq deserves to be rated highly, but all too often people do overrate him. Even PHIL mentions how he felt Shaq could have been better throughout his career, I.E., he didn't give 100% much of the time, and aside from highlight reels, you could tell. (I have Lakers fans in the family, watched TOO many games over the years.:()
     
    #54 Roxlove, Jun 17, 2013
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    Wilt scored his 100 in Philly not with the Lakers. Wilt was at the tail end of his career in LA.

    Kareem was out played by Dream and Moses in the post season. Moses destroyed him.

    Dream was better than Shaq and proved it on the court in the finals. Shaq admits it and even calls Dream the best if all time.

    You need to work on your spelling.
     
    #55 crash5179, Jun 17, 2013
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    You sure about that?

    2004 Detroit Pistons. Ben Wallace was the only all-star on that team. Stop talking out of your ass.
     
    #56 ooox, Jun 17, 2013
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    And in 2006 he had three team mates from 2004 make the All-Star team (Chauncey, Rip and Rasheed). He played with all-stars. They just weren't all-stars THAT year.
     
    #57 Williamson, Jun 17, 2013
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    With all due respect, you're upset because your Lakers are very likely to lose Dwight, quite possibly to the Rockets. And watch your language, chump. This isn't a middle school playground.
     
    #58 Deckard, Jun 17, 2013
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    If this get's into a who's better then I say let's go with this.

    How many players have ever posted a quadruple-double. Hakeem would have done this twice in one month except for Rod Thorn. Shaq, none.

    How about five by fives. At least five in five stat lines. Hakeem has six, Shaq has none. In fact Dream is the only player in nba history to have six in five stat lines.

    In fact David Robinson is the only other big man since the stats were created that had a five by five and a quadruple-double.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_(basketball)

    Only player in NBA history to record 200 blocks and 200 steals in the same season.

    Only player in NBA history to win regular season MVP, Finals MVP and Defensive Player of the Year awards in the same season

    He is the only player in NBA history to retire in the top ten in steals, rebounding, scoring and blocks.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Hakeem_Olajuwon#Achievements
     
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  20. Samdogg36

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    Repped bro!
     
    #60 Samdogg36, Jun 17, 2013
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