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White House does its own intel, does its own climatic assessments?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Achebe, Jun 19, 2003.

  1. Achebe

    Achebe Contributing Member

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    Report by the E.P.A. Leaves Out Data on Climate Change

    The Environmental Protection Agency is preparing to publish a draft report next week on the state of the environment, but after editing by the White House, a long section describing risks from rising global temperatures has been whittled to a few noncommittal paragraphs.

    The report, commissioned in 2001 by the agency's administrator, Christie Whitman, was intended to provide the first comprehensive review of what is known about various environmental problems, where gaps in understanding exist and how to fill them.

    Agency officials said it was tentatively scheduled to be released early next week, before Mrs. Whitman steps down on June 27, ending a troubled time in office that often put her at odds with President Bush.

    Drafts of the climate section, with changes sought by the White House, were given to The New York Times yesterday by a former E.P.A. official, along with earlier drafts and an internal memorandum in which some officials protested the changes. Two agency officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said the documents were authentic.

    The editing eliminated references to many studies concluding that warming is at least partly caused by rising concentrations of smokestack and tail-pipe emissions and could threaten health and ecosystems.

    Among the deletions were conclusions about the likely human contribution to warming from a 2001 report on climate by the National Research Council that the White House had commissioned and that President Bush had endorsed in speeches that year. White House officials also deleted a reference to a 1999 study showing that global temperatures had risen sharply in the previous decade compared with the last 1,000 years. In its place, administration officials added a reference to a new study, partly financed by the American Petroleum Institute, questioning that conclusion.

    In the end, E.P.A. staff members, after discussions with administration officials, said they decided to delete the entire discussion to avoid criticism that they were selectively filtering science to suit policy.

    Administration officials defended the report and said there was nothing untoward about the process that produced it. Mrs. Whitman said that she was "perfectly comfortable" with the edited version and that the differences over climate change should not hold up the broader assessment of the nation's air, land and water.

    "The first draft, as with many first drafts, contained everything," she said in a brief telephone interview from the CBS studios in Manhattan, where she was waiting to tape "The Late Show With David Letterman."

    "As it went through the review, there was less consensus on the science and conclusions on climate change," Ms. Whitman said. "So rather than go out with something half-baked or not put out the whole report, we felt it was important for us to get this out because there is a lot of really good information that people can use to measure our successes."

    James L. Connaughton, chairman of the Council on Environmental Quality, a White House advisory group, said, "It would be utterly inaccurate to suggest that this administration has not provided quite an extensive discussion about the state of the climate. Ultimately, E.P.A. made the decision not to include the section on climate change because we had these ample discussions of the subject already."

    But private environmental groups sharply criticized the changes when they heard of them.

    "Political staff are becoming increasingly bold in forcing agency officials to endorse junk science," said Jeremy Symons, a climate policy expert at the National Wildlife Federation. "This is like the White House directing the secretary of labor to alter unemployment data to paint a rosy economic picture."

    Drafts of the report have been circulating for months, but a heavy round of rewriting and cutting by White House officials in late April raised protest among E.P.A. officials working on the report.

    An April 29 memorandum circulated among staff members said that after the changes by White House officials, the section on climate "no longer accurately represents scientific consensus on climate change."

    Another memorandum circulated at the same time said that the easiest course would be to accept the White House revisions but that to do so would taint the agency, because "E.P.A. will take responsibility and severe criticism from the science and environmental communities for poorly representing the science."

    The changes were mainly made by the Council on Environmental Quality, although the Office of Management and Budget was also involved, several E.P.A. officials said. It is the second time in a year that the White House has sought to play down global warming in official documents.

    Last September, an annual E.P.A. report on air pollution that for six years had contained a section on climate was released without one, and the decision to delete it was made by Bush administration appointees at the agency with White House approval.

    Like the September report, the forthcoming report says the issues will be dealt with later by a climate research plan being prepared by the Bush administration.

    Other sections of the coming E.P.A. report — on water quality, ecological conditions, ozone depletion in the atmosphere and other issues — all start with a summary statement about the potential impact of changes on human health and the environment, which are the two responsibilities of the agency.

    But in the "Global Issues" section of the draft returned by the White House to E.P.A. in April, an introductory sentence reading, "Climate change has global consequences for human health and the environment" was cut and replaced with a paragraph that starts: "The complexity of the Earth system and the interconnections among its components make it a scientific challenge to document change, diagnose its causes, and develop useful projections of how natural variability and human actions may affect the global environment in the future."

    Some E.P.A. staff members defended the document, saying that although pared down it would still help policy makers and the agency address the climate issue.

    "This is a positive step by the agency," said an author of the report, who did not want to be named, adding that it would help someone determine "if a facility or pollutant is going to hurt my family or make it bad for the birds, bees and fish out there."

    ps, I'm speechless.
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Achebe

    Did you see the other thread on global warming while you were in lurk mode?

    P.S.

    I think your signature is hillarious.
     
  3. Achebe

    Achebe Contributing Member

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    pga, I came across that thread, but I didn't get a chance to really read it (besides, wasn't it based on an article written by that stupid woman whats-her-face?). We have played with the issues before, however.

    It's cute that the president has recently learned the meaning of the world 'revisionist', btw. The White House highlights erroneous bs so that we can go to war. The White House highlights bs so that industry will be happy, and keep giving them the big bucks.

    I can't help but think (oh, oh, ******* mode) that the entire charge that the media is liberal... is merely based on the fact that intelligent people are informed. Conservatives simply don't like it when people are cluttered with information that doesn't go with their world view...

    But there is an objective world. Truth does matter.
     
  4. Achebe

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    btw, I got the quote, believe it or not, off of some republican website (i think nro).
     
  5. Mr. Clutch

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    LOL
     
  6. MacBeth

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    I don't see what all the fuss is about, concerning the Government's increasing tendancy to edit information for our consumption. So what if we were mislead about the reasons for war...they knew better. So what if they expect us to take their word for things, and won't show us evidence they surely have about our enemies? I'm sure they have their reasons. What is the danger in our government 'governing'? Isn't that their job? Won't we be more efficient if they don't have to pander to the common man, explain the actions before making them? Won't we be happy if things run better and are safer?

    So what if your civil liberties are being reduced, and more power is being put into the hands of the authorities? Surely they have our best interests at heart, and would only use that power to protect us...even if it's from ourselves. What would you rather have, a few more 'rights', or the safety of you and yours?

    Let the people in charge do their jobs, and stop asking so damned many questions...it just makes it harder for them to do what they think is right for us if they have to make us think it's right too. They are trying to protect us from ever present dangers, here and abroad, and the world is only saying we're wrong because they fear us and are jealous of our power and wealth.



    In what time and place would the above statement be best suited?
     
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  7. Mulder

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    I have oon idea, but if I sprechen ze anzer too quickly, ze fuhrer will stick a boot up mein pooper!
     
  8. MacBeth

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    LOL! P.S. I didn't notice the grammatical error until you responded to my post. :)
     
  9. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    LMAO! :D

    Ja! Clar!
     
  10. Woofer

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    This is the Republican strategy for everything - coopt the words of an opposition viewpoint with an entirely different message to coopt the original premise and discredit anything of complexity and spouting alternative pablum that sounds pleasant in 30 second soundbites, which apparently works since most Americans believe falsely that Saddam had something major to do with 9/11 and that we have already found WMD in Iraq.

    It's a beautiful use of Newspeak, unless you don't believe in what they are saying.
     
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  11. FranchiseBlade

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    This kind of report is very disturbing to me. If the administration doesn't like the results of science, they just change the report.

    I don't want to blow things out of proportion, but does anyone remember the inquisition, and an authoritative body trying to supress science?

    I would hope that Americans become outraged about this kind of thing.
     
  12. Woofer

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    Not gonna happen. Almost no one cared when they changed the data on abortion and women's health.

    Also, after the arsenic studies were redone after Clinton and found to require *stricter* standards, they sort of ignored that, too.
     
  13. mr_gootan

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    I thought he said 'revisionary'.
     
  14. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Maybe they got confused and just published a report on the climate inside the White House. :confused:
     
  15. GladiatoRowdy

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    Several times in history:
    Just before the fall of the Roman Empire
    Germany during Nazism (or are there 2 i's: Naziism?) Hitler's Fascist regime
    The British just before the American Revolution
    Saddam's Iraq
    America under the drug war and the Patriot Act (what a name)
     
  16. giddyup

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    Your neck is stretched so thin here I could cut your head off with a butter knife.
     
  17. wouldabeen23

    wouldabeen23 Contributing Member

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    Except for that whole "burden of truth" thing...:)
     
  18. Woofer

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    Show me the money. Empty artillery shells that are ten years old? That was definitely a clear and present danger...
     

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