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Where does LeBron rank among the greats now?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by steddinotayto, Jun 20, 2016.

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Where do you think LeBron ranks among the greats?

  1. GOAT: Better than MJ

    15 vote(s)
    4.8%
  2. Top 5

    227 vote(s)
    72.3%
  3. Top 10

    62 vote(s)
    19.7%
  4. Top 15

    5 vote(s)
    1.6%
  5. Top 20

    3 vote(s)
    1.0%
  6. Lol don't matter because my hatred for him puts him below Thomas Hamilton and above Stromile Swift

    2 vote(s)
    0.6%
  1. steddinotayto

    steddinotayto Contributing Member

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    4 regular season MVP awards
    3 Finals MVP awards
    3 championships
    10 All-NBA 1st team
    5 All-Defensive 1st team
    1 scoring champion
    1 Rookie of the Year

    Career regular season average: 27.2ppg/7.2rpg/6.9apg/49%FG%
    Career playoff average: 28ppg/8.8rpg/6.8apg/48%FG%


    Top 25 all-time in steals (24th), assists (18th), points (11th)
     
  2. Jayzers_100

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    I hate Lebron but he just sneaked into the Top 5 with this Finals performance...gotta give him props!
     
  3. Orange

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    2 /thread
     
  4. mfastx

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    Top 2 all time. Gonna be tough to catch Jordan, he doesn't necessarily need 3 more finals MVPs, but he needs to sustain this greatness and age well. Needs at least one more before he can be discussed as the GOAT, but he is top 2 if he retired today in my book.
     
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  5. J Sizzle

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    No lower than 3
     
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    tied with Larry Legend at #5-6
     
  7. DonatasFanboy

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    If you are talking about guards, I would say he has got to be in the top 10.
     
  8. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Only slightly lower than Jordan, but it has to do more with supporting cast. Jordan had a better coach and better supporting players during the peak of his career.
     
  9. JayZ750

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    I have him in the top 3.

    MJ
    Kareem
    Lebron

    If you look at the totality of their games, he does way more than Magic, or Bird. He's clearly a better player than Russell. He doesn't have Wilt's dominance, but we all know where Wilt falls short.

    He's been to the Finals with 3 different squads. He's won with veterans, and with young, inexperienced players where he is the veteran.

    He's never been teamed with an all-time, obviously great coach.

    He can legitimately play all 5 positions, which basically only Magic can also say as an all-time great.

    Second best PER all time, behind MJ.

    He's conquered the one demon of the "choke" label, which didn't make much sense in the first place but was at least understandable based on a few games.

    The only knock I have against him is being in such a horrible conference basically his whole career. Though you can make similar arguments about Magic's Lakers, or other squads.

    I don't think he can ever catch MJ. Maybe Kareem. If he has 3-5 more dominating seasons, which no reason he can't.
     
  10. Mr. Clutch

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    Top 5 and he looks like he can win another one next year
     
  11. Elephant810

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    1. MJ
    2. Kareem
    3. Lebron
    4. Magic
    5. Wilt
    6a Shaq
    6b Bird
    7. Oscar
    8. Kobe
    9. Olajuwon
    10. Duncan
     
  12. AirBud#10

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    #2, but that's where he'll stay.
     
  13. LCAhmed

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    Lebron is #2 for me. Think he'll eventually be arguably #1 when it's all said and done. When he retires I imagine he'll be close to 30,000 10,000 10,000 if not over it. I imagine he'll probably surpass MJ and kobe in scoring.
     
  14. don grahamleone

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    LeBron ranks higher than Steph Curry. That's the important thing.
     
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  15. BigMaloe

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    I think he's clearly the #2. Based on skill and overall impact now coupled with accomplishments he's cemented his legacy. To be the first team to ever come back from down 3-1 while also doing it against arguably the most dominant regular season team just really is stuff for the legends.

    I hate LeBron, I've always hated his whiney attitude and his bolt to Miami, but I've always respected his game and recognized his dominance. And this is just something that puts him over the top in comparison to everyone else not named Jordan.

    I doubt he passes mj, and I'm concerned he will start to decline soon. This is probably his absolute peak and I'm glad he was able to bring a chip to Cleveland. He's been ridiculously reliable and injury free his entire career. He's logged a lot of minutes and miles.

    I think if Cleveland can get a pretty big haul of quality players for love, then I think they can win another 2 rings over the next half decade.
     
  16. zeeshan2

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    Legit argument for best SF of all time
     
  17. krnxsnoopy

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    Curry is the regular season MVP
    Lebron is the Finals MVP
    Harden is the true MVP
     
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  18. kanariya

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    I don't like Lebron but he's def top 5.
     
  19. TheRealist137

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    There is no argument. No one is close to Lebron.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This season alone, LeBron jumped <br>J.West<br>R.Miller<br>A.English<br>K.Garnett<br>P.Pierce<br>J.Havlicek<br>T.Duncan &amp;<br>D.Wilkins<br>on <a href="https://twitter.com/NBA">@NBA</a> All-Time Scoring List</p>&mdash; John Michael (@CavsJMike) <a href="https://twitter.com/CavsJMike/status/715682714871988224">March 31, 2016</a></blockquote>
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