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Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by pocketrocket81, Jan 24, 2017.

  1. Mr. Clutch

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    Well because no one knows who chose Osweiler.
     
  2. Nimo

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    This franchise isn't totally transparent so we are left trying to figure out who to blame based on rumors and "leaks". I think the comparison with the Falcons is very good. Both GMs have been there 8-10 years. Both hired new head coaches in the last three years. Both head coaches were looking pretty bad in their specialty but were saved by the coordinator on the other side (O'Brien's an offense guy and the offense stinks; Quinn was a defensive guy and the defense was bad up until this year when it is just decent). Both head coaches are firey guys who are loved by the players. Maybe the Texans are just one year away.
     
  3. the shark

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    Their division has been THE worst in the NFL for a few yrs now so making the playoffs isn't that big of a deal.

    They beat the Raiders in playoffs this yr without Carr.

    I'm not going to get into a pissing match with anyone who thinks that Smith should still be the Texans GM.

    That said, as I've stated, Smith is who he is, and the problem is starts with McNair.
     
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  4. Nimo

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    The worst? I thought you didn't care what other teams were doing? :) I don't think there is any team in the NFL that will agree that making the playoff isn't a big deal. Even the Patriots who have won their division for like 26 seasons in a row, have said they don't take it for granted.

    The problem starts with us not knowing who the problem starts with. I understand the frustration; it just needs to be fair. Blame Rick Smith. He deserves blame; but also give him credit where credit is due. They had one of the worst QB play this season (blame), but had one of the best defenses in the league (credit).
     
  5. raining threes

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    In OB's season ending press conference he said Smith was in charge of FA/Draft. Although I'm sure Smith asks for input from the coaching staff before setting his draft board. Ultimately aquiring new talent falls on Smith. This is where the rumors of OB wanting to leave came from. He wants more say on the personnel side.
     
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  7. Mr. Clutch

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    Except he already he has plenty of say. It was reported that he had most of the say when he was hired. Just like Kubiak did.

    Smith just isn't a guy who wants the responsibility anyway. He's got his safe job sitting next to the owner.

    Now maybe OBrien wants a better GM to help him, or they stripped him of some power this year after 2 years of lousy offense. I can see that. But considering that the draft we just had (all speed for OBrien's offense) I doubt it
     
  8. Houstunna

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    There's a reason HOU and CLE are neck-and-neck for worst sports city.
     
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    LOL SMH.
     
  10. Nimo

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    I'm not there so I'm not speaking from experience but it seems the way it is done that the coaches tell the GM/Scouts what they want/need and prioritize. The GM comes back to the coaches and asks "will these guys work?" So even though Smith might be in charge of FA and draft; he is just getting the guys based on what the coaches say they need. The coaches don't have time to scout other teams and college seniors and the scouts/GM don't spend enough time with the current players to know if a guy is going to work out or not.

    The scouts do all the work anyway so it's just a matter of if you trust the people you hired.
     
  11. Joshfast

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  12. Hey Now!

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    I don't believe they're under any obligation to share with the public how their football operations work, are they? I'm sure they're very aware of who did what.
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    No, but it seems to be a point of contention with two coaches now
     
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    Do we know for sure that it is?
     
  16. Mr. Clutch

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    Well what was all that stuff coming out the week before the round 2 game?
     
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    He wants a GM that shares the same vision as he does when it comes to aquiring talent.

    In short OB doesn't trust Smith and he shouldn't given how Kubiak's tenure ended.
     
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    Agreed

    Apparently OB doesn't like the players Smith/Scouts are giving him to choose from and he doesn't trust Smith. Frankly I dont blame him
     
  19. Hey Now!

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    Random speculation, started by a Jay Glazer musing. All parties involved denied it.
     
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  20. Mr. Clutch

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    They were actual leaks
     

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