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What percentage do you expect Kevin to shoot this year?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by CDrex, Feb 20, 2010.

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What will be Martin's '09-'10 FGP as a Rocket?

  1. below .390

    23 vote(s)
    10.7%

  2. .390-.410

    39 vote(s)
    18.2%

  3. .410-.430

    74 vote(s)
    34.6%

  4. .430-.450

    55 vote(s)
    25.7%

  5. .450-.470

    13 vote(s)
    6.1%

  6. over .470

    10 vote(s)
    4.7%
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  1. CDrex

    CDrex Contributing Member

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    While this is purely speculation, I feel it's a pretty important speculation as far as Martin's success in Houston goes. Now, I have liked Martin for a while from an offensive perspective; a solid field goal percentage and particularly a solid effective field goal percentage are something that too many high-scoring guards in today's NBA are lacking. I don't feel it does your team a huge amount of good to score 30 points a game if you fire up 30 shots to get there. Holding this viewpoint made me a pretty huge fan of Martin throughout his impressive '05-'08 breakout performance run. As he was expected to carry more offensive volume (particularly after the departure of Artest) his percentages dipped slightly, as you would expect. Still, he was a very efficient offensive player until this year. This year, for whatever reason, he has been abysmal by his own standards during his time with Sacramento.

    You hear everyone blaming it on his chemistry with Tyreke. I can see that; Evans dominates the ball and eats up a lot of the possessions that Martin was previously using to get himself easy shots via running plays for Martin. On the other hand, Martin had some pretty poor shooting nights before he was injured and Reke came into his own; he shot about 40% before he was injured, and is shooting about 40% since returning.

    So I'm curious what the feeling is here...was it just not Kevin's year in Sacramento, or is he on the decline? As a Rocket this year, will he return to shooting an excellent percentage for a guard, or will he continue at the pace he was setting as a King?

    My personal feeling is that, based on watching Martin's offensive skills over the last five years, he still absolutely has it in him to pump the FGP back up to the 45% level. In reality, we may see a more typical-wing-player percentage of 43-44%, but I feel that in Houston's system he can certainly do much better than the 40% he's managed in Sacramento. Incidentally, screw his performance tonight; that's no indicator whatsoever, but did make me think about this issue.

    FG%, eFG%, and shots per game respectively by year:
    Code:
    2004-05    .385  .406  2.6
2005-06    .480  .540  7.6
2006-07    .473  .533  13.3
2007-08    .456  .515  15.0
2008-09    .420  .491  15.9
2009-10    .398  .456  15.4
     
    #1 CDrex, Feb 20, 2010
  2. jzmagic

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    39% hes on the decline
     
    #2 jzmagic, Feb 20, 2010
  3. Entropy

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    Hmmm. Best guess is .358 based on a gut feeling. I love the way the guy plays though. Hope I'm not right.
     
    #3 Entropy, Feb 20, 2010
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    By the end of the season, maybe 0.41ish.
     
    #4 tofu--, Feb 20, 2010
  5. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    43% This year only because of his first half struggles.

    Next year with Yao he will EXPLODE.
     
    #5 REEKO_HTOWN, Feb 20, 2010
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    i think 42%
     
    #6 jason86976253, Feb 20, 2010
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    40% ...even.
     
    #7 Karolik, Feb 20, 2010
  8. jzmagic

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    Rockets shooting disease and the fact that he's on the decline this season is terrible news.
     
    #8 jzmagic, Feb 20, 2010
  9. flamingdts

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    Better than today's game I hope
     
    #9 flamingdts, Feb 20, 2010
  10. Karolik

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    Honestly Artest shot 45% on the kings before he joined the rockets..People expecting martin to shoot well are going to be in for a surprise the rest of the season.
     
    #10 Karolik, Feb 20, 2010
  11. ChrisBosh

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    It looks like he's going to shoot under .200, he's on the decline, he's 27, that's too old. :rolleyes:
     
    #11 ChrisBosh, Feb 20, 2010
  12. kaleidosky

    kaleidosky Your Tweety Bird dance just cost us a run

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    blows my mind how many stupid comments have been made in the last week
     
    #12 kaleidosky, Feb 20, 2010
  13. Bandwagoner

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    why is that stupid? He has been shooting under .400 this season. Saying he will continue to do no better when trying to fit into a new system is quite reasonable.
     
    #13 Bandwagoner, Feb 20, 2010
  14. LCII

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    With a post threat drawing away attention: 46% easily
    This season: 42%

    It'll be better than Trevor Ariza, and incidentally, Trevor Ariza's own FG% will go up now that Kevin Martin is here to shoulder the scoring load.
     
    #14 LCII, Feb 20, 2010
  15. nolimitnp

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    He's 27 and on the decline? Man the NBA better renounce its one year removed from high school to be drafted rule and we better start drafting middle school kids.
     
    #15 nolimitnp, Feb 20, 2010
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  16. Yak

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    That guy wasn't saying his percentages were going down because he's in a new system.

    He was saying Martin is on the decline.

    A 27 year old on the decline? That's unheard of. Well, maybe not for a certain player that used to be around...
     
    #16 Yak, Feb 20, 2010
  17. Bandwagoner

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    well factually he is on the decline.

    07-08 he played in 61 games, next year was 51, this year will be less.In the same years his FG% went from .456, .420 to .398

    In what universe is that not DECLINING?
     
    #17 Bandwagoner, Feb 20, 2010
  18. pmac

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    Well, scoring is really the only thing he does well. If he shoots below 40% all season he would be a bad player. Like a poor defending Trevor Ariza bad.
     
    #18 pmac, Feb 20, 2010
  19. StevieCrossover

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    no problem with his shooting. just as long as he gets the ball more in the 4th quarter. I really question his defense
     
    #19 StevieCrossover, Feb 20, 2010
  20. devin23

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    This comparsion is not a good sign. Because Brooks like tyreke, is really not a pg but a sg... 2 shooting guards in one lineup spells disaster. Need lowry to start.
     
    #20 devin23, Feb 20, 2010
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