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What is our Best NON-Harden Lineup?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rocket River, Dec 12, 2019.

  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    I think this will be important later

    There is NOW - With Ego out
    but
    More importantly LATER

    Does: Westbrook - Ego - House/Bmac - PJ - Capela get it done?

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  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Contributing Member

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    Anything where Westbrook is on the bench.

    DD
     
  3. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    We need a squad that can score when Harden is not on the floor?
    Every time Harden goes to the bench I get worried. I think that I
    just want them to maintain the lead or not get too too far behind

    What is the best squad for those goals

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    Please don't put these kinda thoughts in our minds... It's hard enough with him in there!
     
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    Calm down!...You really don't like WB huh?..
     
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    Like NON.....
     
  7. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    We need to be find something that works for about 12~18 minutes a game.
    James Playing 42 minutes a night ain't cutting it imo


    Rocket River
     
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    I wish this forum had negs
     
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    Westbrook
    Rivers
    EG
    House
    PJ

    It gives Westbrook four 3 point shooting threats, and gives us decent defense when everyone is locked in. We would lack rim protection but that's nothing new. Russ, House and PJ would have to handle most of the rebounding. I think this is the best non-Harden lineup if we want to maximize Westbrook's skill set.

    Sitting Russ is not an option.
     
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  11. juanm34

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    I’d give PJ some rest and run with Tyson / i-Hart / Clark. Having EG out there with Westbrick should help limit his poor shot selection and turnovers.
     
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    Tyson and Harty will help with the rebounding and Rim protection

    Rocket River
     
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    Based on +/-

    Westbrook
    McLemore
    House
    Tucker
    Chandler
     
  14. 1Deep

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    Until we need somebody to play with some f*cking heart.
     
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    Here are the numbers from 82games.com: http://www.82games.com/1920/1920HOU2.HTM

    The unit cited isn't in the data I linked to---too few minutes, I'm guessing. Of the very few five-man groups in their listed top 25, that don't have Harden, the best one as ranked by +/- is WB-Rivers-Mac-EGo-Chandler. It played 11.0 minutes, had 1.19 to 0.92 Offense vs Defense, and a +8 +/-. LOL sample size.

    Since we don't have EGo at the moment, the other best 5 non-Harden was: WB-Rivers-Mac-House-Tucker. It played 11.8 minutes, 1.14 to 1.16 Offense vs Defense, yet had a +3 +/-.

    Not a lot of choices, though the team will really like to have Gordon back. Especially since these 19-20 numbers are with a Gordon that was playing poorly compared to April-May 2019 Eric Gordon.
     
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    false
     
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    that's why +/- are dumb bc clearly you would want capela over chandler, and you would want EGO in there somewhere
     
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    To be fair. With Harden off the floor and Westbrook on the floor we are still getting our asses handed to us. Last I checked it was -9 per 100 possessions. And our offense with Westbrook in and Harden out is right at about the Knicks level, which is worst in the league.

    So it hasn’t been pretty.

    BUT..... that doesn’t mean necessarily that Westbrook shouldn’t be playing.

    Honestly the only lineup I could see working really well that doesn’t feature Harden is Westbrook, Gordon, House, Tucker and CC. Doubt that lineup sees much run, but it’s probably the best Hardenless group we can put out there.
     
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    I think you mean. That’s why +/- with microscopic sample sizes are dumb.
     
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  20. Rocket River

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    You will have to have 5~10 minutes to sub out each.
    Harty/Tyson for CC
    Tucker needs to be spelled by Clark
    BMac and Green will get some meaningful minutes

    Rocket River
     
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