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What do you guys think of Uber's threat to leave Houston

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Brando2101, Apr 29, 2016.

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How do you feel about the regulation complaints Uber has against the City of Houston?

  1. I support Uber. Ease regulations.

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  2. I support the city even if Uber decides to leave Houston

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  1. Brando2101

    Brando2101 Contributing Member

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    We have a vote next week in Austin to overturn a new ordinance the city council passed that increases regulations on Lyft/Uber and we are dealing with the promise to leave Austin if it doesn't pass. I know that they've now promised to leave Houston if they don't change their laws as well.

    I understand that it's a bit of a strong arm tactic but Austin has such massive mobility problems. I don't know if any of you have ever tried to get a cab at night here but it's impossible. I am voting for the Lyft/Uber ordinance even though they financed the campaign to get an election for it.

    I know you guys have better transportation options. How do you feel about Uber's fight against Houston?
     
  2. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    We don't have Uber/Lyft in Eugene and I hate it. We used to, then Oregon passed laws on background checks and healthcare and Uber did not want to comply. They do follow through with it, and the consumer suffers.
     
  3. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost clean your room bucko

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    I thought Uber was threatening to leave Houston because the city insisted on a type of personnel checking that actually made it too easy to become an Uber driver, not the other way around.

    Edit: http://abc13.com/news/riders-drivers-react-to-ubers-threat-to-leave-houston/1311906/

    Nevermind, apparently the article I read had it backwards.

    Not really sure why fingerprint checks are needed. Don't they require some other type of ID that would clearly point them out as a prior criminal?

    Most of the time when cities fight Uber it is simply because the council is bought and paid for by anti-Uber lobbyists. This is probably no different.
     
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  4. Supermac34

    Supermac34 President, Von Wafer Fan Club

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    The strange thing about this particular fight is it apparently came out of nowhere. City officals had previously met with Uber and there had been no indication of issues with the regulations at the time.
     
  5. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost clean your room bucko

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    $omeone ¢hanged their mind$
     
  6. Rocket River

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    Basically . . . it seems to me . .. . with the advent of Uber/Lyft
    It made all the licensing to be a Taxi Driver Moot

    Either
    1. Require Uber and Lyft to follow the same guidelines as Taxis
    or
    2. remove those guidelines for everyone

    Rocket River
     
  7. Brando2101

    Brando2101 Contributing Member

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    As I understand it, this was sort of a "trial city" and they spent time tracking date of the effect of the ordinance as well as tracking how much time it takes drivers to get approved which they say is months. They are likely announcing it now because of the pending vote in Austin however I don't believe they are just kidding about the complaint to Houston. I think it was just a reason for the timing.
     
  8. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    Basically I guess . . .Uber and Lyft cut the city out of some licensing money

    Rocket River

    ----- http://www.dmv.org/tx-texas/special-licenses.php ----
    For-Hire Driver Requirements

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    Meet a minimum age requirement.
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  9. Brando2101

    Brando2101 Contributing Member

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    I can see that since taxi regulations date back to the great depression. However, I feel like the safety features that Lyft/Uber offer with their apps should be required of Taxis. For example: Real Time Tracking you can send your friends, ability to rate your driver in order to improve the cab's quality of service in terms of Safety, Cleanliness, Attitude. I suppose you don't need their license plate number since it's a giant yellow car. Those features are why I feel safer in a Lyft than in a cab despite finger printing requirements.
     
  10. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost clean your room bucko

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    I feel 10 times safer in an Uber/Lyft than I do in a Taxi.

    Holy hell those guys suck.
     
  11. HeWhoIsLunchbox

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    The background checks that Uber performs on their drivers have a history of not being thorough enough.
     
  12. geeimsobored

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    Its because of Austin. Austin passed the same rules as Houston and Uber and Lyft went nuts. They're funding a referendum in Austin to repeal it.

    As a way of increasing pressure on Austin voters, they're putting out press releases saying that they're going to leave Houston because of the background check requirements.

    it is truly upsetting to see a company (or companies in this case) think that they can just bully a city or cities around like this. They're bankrolling an entire referendum and buying off people left and right in Austin to back them. It's disgusting if you ask me.
     
  13. Mr. Brightside

    Mr. Brightside Contributing Member

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    Uber is a fundamental right of the people. Not everyone can afford a fancy CLA or entry level Tesla.
     
  14. tierre_brown

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    I've gotten two or three cold calls informing me of the vote in Austin and trying to convince me to vote for the ordinance. It's a good service, but eff that noise.
     
  15. Haymitch

    Haymitch Contributing Member

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    Are you similarly upset over a city being persuaded by special interest groups to run companies out of town?
     
  16. cwebbster

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    Hipster heads will explode and beards will catch on fire.
     
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  17. MadMax

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    I love Uber, so I really don't want it to leave.

    But this isn't the only market where Uber is having these issues.
     
  18. geeimsobored

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    If you're referring to the taxi industry, then of course. But that's not the history of the fingerprint requirement. The fingerprint requirement happened after an Uber driver in Houston raped a passenger. And that Uber driver had a federal drug charges and was still cleared by Uber.

    In fact Uber never protested the original Houston ordinance (which happened days after the incident). They largely couldn't as it was obvious that Uber's system had failed and so the city mandated that Uber drivers be licensed by the cities via its own system.

    What Uber doesn't like is the fact that cities are now modeling requirements around Houston's. This was never initiated by the taxi industry. This happened because a real criminal incident and the city in its interest of protecting people passed new laws to regulate drivers.

    This is corporate bullying of government because Uber fears that they won't recruit as many drivers thanks to new background check requirements. Uber was the one that failed in this instance. Uber even sued the city of Houston to prevent the city from releasing records related to the effectiveness of the city background check system.
     
  19. treyk3

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    Parker is out of office and all of a sudden the issue appears again? Someone is in someone's pocket.
     
  20. geeimsobored

    geeimsobored Contributing Member

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    Actually I'd suggest the opposite. I think they were hoping for someone like Bill King and a significantly more conservative council to repeal the mandate.

    Instead, they got Sylvester Turner (who wont change the fingerprint requirement) and the council's orientation didn't change that drastically. So now they're resorting to hostage taking (especially with the Austin vote coming up).
     
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