1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Westbrook Is a clear upgrade over CP3

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by astros123, Jul 11, 2019.

  1. JW86

    JW86 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2016
    Messages:
    6,867
    Likes Received:
    8,988
    Go big or go home hahaha :) Westbrook is crazy, but maybe that's good. We were ISO heavy and no way it was going to change drastically so might as well go with a guy like him.
     
    plutoblue11 likes this.
  2. likestohypeguy

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Messages:
    3,726
    Likes Received:
    1,761
    So long as everyone's on board with Russell's Rules, should be good.

    Russell's Rules:
    1. Box out, clear out- on both ends & at the line, give Russ first shot at all boards.
    2. When Russ find's you, SHOOT or back to him. Don't turn his assist into a hockey assist.
    3. James Harden needs to learn to play without the ball- move around, spot up threes.
    4. Generally don't F. with Russell's triple double stats.
    5. Always have Russell's back. On the court and off (pressers etc.)
     
    ronclone, 13 in 33, Sadboy and 3 others like this.
  3. roslolian

    roslolian Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    24,450
    Likes Received:
    14,735
    There's 0 point in changing the coach now Westbrook is the most inflexible player in the NBA. He literally has no skills apart from his athleticism so what will a new coach do? WB is too dumb to play any other system other than ISOs.

    We ride or die with this coach and system. The Harden era will either succeed or fail within the next 4 years.
     
    fattz, PDXPal and Gray_Jay like this.
  4. YOLO

    YOLO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2012
    Messages:
    46,688
    Likes Received:
    44,883
    no he isn't.

    a non spacer next to harden is not an upgrade
    a bad ft shooting pg is not an upgrade
    a horribly inefficient pg is not an upgrade
    a egocentric pg is not an upgrade
     
    ronclone, PDXPal, ilias and 3 others like this.
  5. ikedog34

    ikedog34 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2008
    Messages:
    114
    Likes Received:
    104
    The biggest issue when we were losing was rebounding and sometimes Chris not being able to beat his man. At least we don't have those issues anymore. Hopefully Russ's 3 point percentage goes back up. We really need a decent 3/D sf that can start and then we should be set.
     
  6. YOLO

    YOLO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2012
    Messages:
    46,688
    Likes Received:
    44,883


    can't wait. oh boy
     
    PDXPal, Kevooooo, Sadboy and 3 others like this.
  7. BigM

    BigM Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2001
    Messages:
    17,999
    Likes Received:
    13,181
    What’s the question? A 34 year old Paul is probably still better than Russel Westbrook so it’s plausible that the Rockets aren’t as good as they were before the trade. But I understand the trade. Westbrook probably gives you more games and he’s younger so it extends your window of competitiveness. Paul could really fall of a cliff at any point. I’m neutral about the trade but it could definitely work out in the long run.
     
  8. Houstunna

    Houstunna The Most Unbiased Fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2013
    Messages:
    33,279
    Likes Received:
    24,255
    Does this trade still happen if Paul signs for 30 mil/yr instead of 40 ??

    It's like telling one lie and you must tell another.

    One f*** up leads to another.
     
    pr0wler, fattz, ilias and 5 others like this.
  9. BHannes2BHonest

    BHannes2BHonest 2 SOLID FOR WEIRD AZZES

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2010
    Messages:
    3,140
    Likes Received:
    5,640
    Holy shizzzle .... it’s meltdown time
     
  10. ak99999

    ak99999 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2009
    Messages:
    887
    Likes Received:
    688
    Westbrick is career 30% for 3s. Need to tell westbrook to not shoot any 3s and just drive to the basket everytime!
     
    Williamson likes this.
  11. photojoe

    photojoe Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2013
    Messages:
    3,175
    Likes Received:
    3,313
    Oh man. This is so gross.

    A straight up CP for Westbrook trade would bave been bad. The fact that we included picks makes this disgusting.

    OKC robbed us. Presti got his revenge for the Harden trade
     
    ronclone, fattz, PDXPal and 8 others like this.
  12. Russjr2

    Russjr2 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2007
    Messages:
    1,776
    Likes Received:
    1,137
    Im not worried about his 3pt shooting %. I think Dantoni will put him in an offense that will allow him to use that speed and attacking capability he has. OKC had a bad offense and they never had the shooters to space the floor like we do. Russ coming off a screen playing downhill will be damn near impossible to stop. He is just so dynamic. I hope this is not the last move we make to shore up the role players around them. Still need that SF and or PF to come aboard.
     
  13. JayGoogle

    JayGoogle Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2007
    Messages:
    50,208
    Likes Received:
    40,920
    This is the one aspect I think contrasts well with Harden...Westbrook just goes, pure energy, no one ever doubts his effort.

    He's certainly talented and MDA is PG whisperer so hopefully MDA can work on his bad habits more than his previous coaches.
     
    FrontRunner likes this.
  14. YOLO

    YOLO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2012
    Messages:
    46,688
    Likes Received:
    44,883
    its funny how, you could probably search the post history of over half the board and everyone talks about wb and his negative attributes. how he's so inefficient, terrible decision maker, ego driven, cant shoot. etc

    all of a sudden that's flipped eh ;)
     
    ronclone and Williamson like this.
  15. Pandaemonaeon

    Pandaemonaeon Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2002
    Messages:
    2,915
    Likes Received:
    4,013
    Russ is a poor shooter but we hate it when our guys just stand around chucking anyway. He steals rebounds but we don't rebound anyway. Everyone wanted the guys to push the pace and Russ can do that.
     
  16. Boki4MvP

    Boki4MvP Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2006
    Messages:
    149
    Likes Received:
    157
    Terrible fit my ass. These dudes went to the finals as babies.
     
  17. PersianRocket

    PersianRocket Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2012
    Messages:
    1,755
    Likes Received:
    282
    CP was worse last season in every advanced metric that wasn't WS/48, eFG% and TS%. BPM, VORP, PER, total WS all went to Russ. Games played leans Russ. Durability towards Russ. APG and RPG towards Russ. PPG towards Russ. He is the superior player. Also three years younger. They are also on identical contracts, except Russ has a player option in his last year. Was it worth the 4 picks? maybe not. If he wins a championship here though then I personally couldn't give a **** about those 4 picks.
     
    c1utchfan925 and PhiSlamma15 like this.
  18. PhiSlamma15

    PhiSlamma15 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2014
    Messages:
    4,581
    Likes Received:
    1,047
    mr too but clearly CP3 has aged and not healthy...no turning back the clock
     
  19. Hemingway

    Hemingway Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Messages:
    6,111
    Likes Received:
    8,106
    You are right on the money. Next step PF
     
    PhiSlamma15 likes this.
  20. durvasa

    durvasa Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2006
    Messages:
    37,997
    Likes Received:
    15,461
    OKC will be good next year. CP3 is still a really good player when he’s allowed to run the show, I think. I could see them winning 50 games next year.

    Sure would be something if the Rockets end up winning less games than the Thunder.
     
    Gray_Jay likes this.

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now