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Watson on Patriots Offensive Line

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Rockets4lf, Sep 11, 2019.

  1. Rockets4lf

    Rockets4lf Member

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    Can this guy be better than Brady if he were giving the chance to play with an offensive line that technically let you have a picnic on every play?
     
  2. htownbball

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    Brady is the GOAT...so...you're asking if D4 can be the new GOAT
     
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  3. Mattician

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    I don't know about better.

    I'd just like the offensive line to be good enough so we can have a chance to see Watson play for the Texans until he's 40+.
     
  4. J.R.

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    They should just put this out there (when the Texans are on offense).
    :D

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  5. coachbadlee

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    Yes, he would.
     
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  6. coachbadlee

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    Or just clone Tunsil 4 times.
     
  7. Nick

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    Teams also know that you’re not going to get to Brady by bringing pressure. He’s just going to pin point the weak spot of the defense pre-snap and find the wide open receiver.

    The only way to stop Brady is to somehow cover everybody AND bring pressure with base rush defense.
     
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  8. Juxtaposed Jolt

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    At this point, I'd settle for him playing for the Texans until he's 25. Baby steps.
     
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    Brady would make the OL look a lot better than Watson does.
     
  10. TheRealist137

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    Brady has been in the NFL for almost 20 years, the man has seen everything. Brady didn't have a terrible o-line when he was up and coming like Watson.

    Deshaun is younger than Brady was in 2001 when he won the super bowl as a game manger (18 TD 12 INT). Deshaun at 23 is better than Brady was at 24.

    Brady had the GOAT coach and an elite football team around him that allowed him to develop on his own schedule and not have to worry about career threatening hits every week.

    Brady was drafted into a privileged position at QB. Watson was not.
     
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  11. The Real Shady

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    This is the reason why olineman seem to leave New England and get much worse. Brady, and Manning had it as well, have elite pocket presence and ability to audible for quick throws for blitzes.

    While the Texans line does stink PFF attributed 3 of the 6 sacks on Monday night to Watson. Lance Zierlien's dad, a former NFL oline coach, said that on the Tunsil sack Watson dropped back 11 steps which is too far and it should have been 8 steps. This allows your lineman to funnel speed rushers to the outside while the qb can step up into the pocket and make a throw. When Watson dropped back 11 steps Tunsil just funneled the rusher directly into the sack. He also said the oline wasn't as bad as it looked, and it's correctable. Honestly this sounds like bad coaching to me.
     
  12. Nook

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    That’s nice, but Brady is still the best QB in football history.
     
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  13. The Real Shady

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    One way to compare the difference that Brandy and Manning make to an oline is to look at the sack difference when they had another QB playing during their injury years. Pretty much the difference between an elite line and a poor one.

    2009 Tom Brady 16 sacks
    2008 Matt Cassel 47 sacks
    2007 Tom Brady 21 sacks

    2011 Painter/Orlovsky/Collins 35 sacks
    2010 Peyton Manning 16 sacks
    2009 Peyton Manning 10 sacks
     
  14. FLASH21

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    That most likely speaks to their innate ability to read defenses, dissect them, and execute the play to the correct player as quickly as they do.

    Which shows that an elite QB can absolutely elevate the line in front of him. Our problem with Watson is that he's still learning and sometimes that ability to run can be a hindrance to his development as a pocket QB while making him that much more susceptible to injury.
     
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  15. Air Langhi

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    If watson isn't that fast at reading the defense then tailor offense to his strength. Why don't they run the Garry Kublaik offense. Do those bootlegs. Give him more time. He isn't brady or manning, but he has his strengths.
     
  16. Nick

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    Ah... the ol "Run more bootlegs!" hot take.
     
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  17. Wattafan

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    Eventually after a decade or so yeah.
    Brady knows the game inside out, has vast experience together with amazing accuracy and a very quick release.
    With time Watson could also acquire these talents but for now, he is still on a steep learning curve.
    Still, with what we have already seen, he could mature into one of the greats.
     
  18. banzai

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    I feel sorry for Watson. What a waste.
     
  19. red5rocket

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    Who’s teaching Watson how to read NFL defenses?
     
  20. steddinotayto

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    Sounds like DeShaun needs a bit of coaching....from a guy that used to be heralded as an offensive expert because he was an OC for New England at one time....
     
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