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[Washington Post] 3 Cops Fired After Racist Talk of Killing Black Residents

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  1. Reeko

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    Sitting in his patrol car in Wilmington, N.C., Officer Michael “Kevin” Piner predicted Black Lives Matter protests would soon lead to civil war. “I’m ready,” Piner told another officer, adding that he planned to buy an assault rifle.

    “We are just going to go out and start slaughtering them f------ n------,” he said.

    The shocking threat came amid extended, openly racist conversations between Piner, 44, and two other police officers, 50-year-old Cpl. Jesse E. Moore II, and 48-year-old Officer James “Brian” Gilmore. In the discussions, taped by accident on a patrol car camera and released Wednesday by the department, the men freely drop racial slurs, suggest killing black residents and deride protesters.

    “Wipe 'em off the f------ map,” Piner said of African Americans. “That’ll put 'em back about four or five generations.”

    All three officers were fired Wednesday, with new Wilmington Police Chief Donny Williams, who is black, calling the conversations “brutally offensive.”

    “This is the most exceptional and difficult case I have encountered in my career,” said Williams, who was just hired as chief on Tuesday. “We must establish new reforms for policing here at home and throughout this country.”

    The officers’ vile discussions came to light purely by chance. On June 4, a sergeant was conducting routine video reviews when she found a nearly two-hour long clip from Piner’s cruiser created by an “accidental activation,” according to a department report. After listening to the racist discussion, she alerted a superior who started an internal investigation.

    Piner, a Wilmington police officer since 1998, began the recording by expressing his fury about the ongoing protests against police brutality and racial injustice in the wake of George Floyd’s death. Speaking to Gilmore, who had apparently pulled his cruiser up alongside Piner’s car, he complained that local police only cared about “kneeling down with the black folks.”

    Gilmore, hired by the department in 1997, said that whites were now “worshiping blacks,” adding he’d seen a video of a “fine looking white girl and this little punk pretty boy bowing down and kissing their toes.”

    The two then complained about black officers on the force, calling one a “piece of s---” and complaining that another was “sitting on his a--” during the protests. “Let’s see how his boys take care of him when s--- gets rough, see if they don’t put a bullet in his head,” Piner said.

    Piner soon left to check out an alarm, investigators found. Later, Moore, who also was hired in 1997, called him to describe a recent arrest of a black woman, repeatedly calling her a racial slur.

    “She needed a bullet in the head right then and move on,” Moore said of the woman. “Let’s move the body out of the way and keep going.”

    Later, while complaining about a black judge whom Moore called a “f------ negro magistrate,” Moore added, “It’s bad man because not all black people are like that.”

    “Most of 'em,” Piner responded.

    “90 percent of 'em, Kevin, 90 f------ percent of 'em,” Moore said.

    Soon, Piner turned the conversation to his belief that a civil war was imminent and his intention to buy high-powered weaponry. After saying he was ready to “slaughter” black people, he added, “God I can’t wait."

    “You’re crazy,” Moore responded, before the recording shut off.

    On June 9, Internal Affairs investigators confronted the men with the recording. They admitted to having the conversations, but the officers each characterized it as “venting” and blamed the “stress of today’s climate in law enforcement,” investigators wrote.

    Moore and Gilmore argued they were “not racist,” with Moore adding he “doesn’t normally speak like that but was feeding off Officer Piner,” according to the investigators. Piner, meanwhile, said the tape was “embarrassing” and suggested concerns for his family’s safety had led him to a “breaking point.”

    Williams, the chief, said he would ensure none of the men could be rehired by the city and would ask state officials to review their law enforcement certifications. He said he would consult with prosecutors about potential criminal charges against the three men, and would ask them to review whether any of the former officers had shown bias toward criminal defendants in the past.

    “There are certain behaviors that one must have in order to be a police officer, and these three officers have demonstrated that they do not possess it,” Williams said. “When I first learned of these conversations, I was shocked, saddened and disgusted. There is no place for this behavior in our agency or our city, and it will not be tolerated.”
     
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    I am not sure why you tagged me. Nothing indicates it is fake or staged. Are you sick of losing real arguments so you are just making up strawmen so you can huff and puff and blow them down?
     
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    I didn't want to dig up the larger police brutality thread. Happened last August.

    Wearing an open faced ski mask while wearing headphones is enough for cops to think you're resisting arrest.

    That "one bad cop" in Minny sure ****ed it up for everyone.

    What We Know About the Killing of Elijah McClain

    Last August, police officers in Aurora, Colorado, approached 23-year-old Elijah McClain as he walked home from a convenience store. The Aurora Police Department later said that a 911 caller had reported a “suspicious person” in a ski mask, and that when officers confronted McClain — who was not armed and had not committed any kind of crime — he “resisted arrest.” In the 15 minutes that followed, the officers tackled McClain to the ground, put him in a carotid hold, and called first responders, who injected him with ketamine. He had a heart attack on the way to the hospital, and died days later, after he was declared brain dead.

    McClain’s family maintains that law enforcement’s use of excessive force led to his death. The officers, however, were subsequently cleared of wrongdoing, apparently on the basis of questionable body-camera footage and an allegedly inconclusive autopsy. McClain’s case has attracted renewed scrutiny amid national protests against systemic racism and the deadly tactics that police often deploy against Black people.​
     
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    North Carolina law enforcement has been a hotbed for social scientists for decades. I think they had this early data collection program for cop stops, searches, etc and major universities and scholars studied that data. What's funny is that I think every study is like "North Carolina police habits unfairly biased against blacks and Latinos." I mean, it's like every new measurement, every new dataset, every new scholar and it's always the conclusion that there's a lot of statistical evidence that points to North Carolina cops racial profiling like crazy. I even think the major police departments have addressed the studies (challenged some, accepted others) and maybe it's improved, but we don't really know until years later (by knowing I mean statistical studies in social science). Anyhow, just thought it was interesting that while this repulsive conversation could have been recorded in other states, it was police in North Carolina.
     
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    LOL you act like most are staged racist go back to your retirement
     
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    You are the one who tagged me... lol whatever man. Nothing to say except those men are unhinged assholes and getting rid of them was a good call.
     
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    they're racists
     
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