okay, fine Heypart. I'll actually dignify your rambling with a response. but Rogers CAN shoot. And Walt needs to go. Some points to make... 1. Walt's D is no where near as effective as Rogers. What games are you watching??? 2. Carlos does not continuously clog the lane. As compared to Walt's standing around in one spot, allowing for defenders to play passing lanes, Carlos has movement on offense. He creates second shots by actually grabbing offensive boards. He cuts to the hoop. He makes put backs. 3. Since we are all going to macro analize the stats and the perception of 2 pters and such, Ill add this. Walt is the beneficiary of getting the easiest shots on the team. Short of a dunk or layup, set shots (basically regarless of how far they are out) where his man is doubling down low should mean money in the bank. so there you go. start Rogers.
Start Rogers so that the other team can always double down on Steve. Great idea. Don't get me wrong, I love Carlos, and wish the best for him. In fact, I was thinking immediately before I saw this post (imagine me in the middle of fuzzy clouds at the edge of the screen and a harp playing): Is Carlos going to be the odd man out if Taylor signs? At the four spot the Rockets have: Kenny Thomas, Jason Collier, Pig (FA), T.W. (draft rights) At the five spot the Rockets have: Dream, Cato, Pig (FA), T.W. (draft rights) Dream will play until mid-December when he comes down w/ a major injury... and I like the idea of Carlos playing C/PF in a small & quick lineup. I know everyone thinks T. W. is a legit 6'11 or whatever... but I'm pretty sure he's 6'9". Dan Langhi was taller than he is and I heard CD refer to Langhi as 6'10" talking to someone on the phone. ------------------ I've posted so much that what I say must be true. The latest on Maurice Taylor
<table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width=18% valign=top><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">TheFreak</font> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">Member Posts: 1785 Registered: Feb 99</font></td><td><img src="http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/posticon.gif" border=0><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"><font size="1" color="#800080" face="Verdana, Arial">posted August 24, 2000 10:02 AM <a href="http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb-cgi/ubbmisc.cgi?action=getbio&UserName=TheFreak" target=_blank><img src="http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/profile.gif" border=0 alt="Click Here to See the Profile for TheFreak"></a> <a href="http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb-cgi/postings.cgi?action=editpost&forum=Rockets+2000:+Game+Action+|AMP|+Roster+Moves&number=3&topic=008315.cgi&ReplyNum=000021&TopicSubject=Walt+ MUST+GO!!!!!!!!!!"><img src="http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/edit.gif" border=0 alt="Edit/Delete Message"></a><a href="http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb-cgi/postings.cgi?action=reply&forum=Rockets+2000:+Game+Action+|AMP|+Roster+Moves&number=3&topic=008315.cgi&TopicSubject=Walt+MUST+GO!!!!!!!!!!&r eplyto=21"><img src="http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/quote.gif" border=0 alt="Reply w/Quote"></a></font><hr>Don't ever plagiarize me again. You bunch of damn 2-year-olds.</font><p align=right><font size="1" color="#800080" face="Verdana, Arial">IP: <a href="http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb-cgi/ubbmisc.cgi?action=getip&number=3&topic=008315.cgi&ReplyNum=000021&forum=Rockets+2000:+Game+Action+|AMP|+Roster+Moves&TopicSubject=Walt+MUST +GO!!!!!!!!!!">Logged</a></font></p></td></tr></table> There, is that better....I gave you credit. Time to wake up TheFreak and realize you don't own the cluthcity playbook. You contributed greatly to this playbook last season. You see, we have a season quickly approaching us. We must be prepared. What better way to prepare for the season than to go over last season's playbook. This bbs is getting too soft. just like Mo. We need to hit the practice board, or we will just be swamped by opposing posters. I plan on improving my posting this Summer, by learning all the plays from last year. Just spinning speculation threads all summer is not going to cut it.<font color="f7f7f7"> [This message has been edited by heypartner (edited August 24, 2000).]
It would be stupid to start Carlos, just because he's a good athlete. Assuming Cato starts we already have one starter that is not a offensive threat. two starters would kill us, cuz like someone earler said other teams would double team Steve even more knowing this. At the end of the season, Walt made all the double teams,of Mobley and Francis, pay. Of course his defense isn't the greatest, but he'll block some shots on occasion and his overall game outweighs his mediocre defense. OF course, this is all contingent of Walt playing like he did in March and April. I think there was a direct correlation of Walt's playing and the Rox success. If U noticed it was when Walt started playing better, that we started winning more games, beating the likes of Seattle,Phoenix,Utah,Dallas and Portland in the last month or so. I mention Dallas cuz they were very hot at that time. PS. IS IT ME OR DOES CARLOS HAVE HAND OF STONE? ------------------
A few more things, Rogers defense isn't great enough to warrant him a starting job say like PJBrown,Rodman or Ratliff. If it was that good, I'd have no problem starting him. Couple that with his inablitlity to hold on to the ball and no real offensive moves I think he's better suited coming off the bench.THeres a reason why he's never really started in career in the NBA. ------------------
Are you talking about your post I used Freak? Yeah, I thought that was funny the first time, too. To this day, I still have no idea what you meant. Lesson learned. Don't do 3pt vs 2pt analysis this season when the first Walt bashing thread comes out. You see; that's called improvement. 1700 posts...come on. We need better from you. How can you sit there and let the crap posts take over this board....you softy. Crisco, Smegg and I are hitting the practice board. Get off your duff TheFreak. We need more from you.
TheFreak: Huh? ------------------ I've posted so much that what I say must be true. The latest on Maurice Taylor
I haven't seen you use any of my posts yet. I was talking about the first one w/Texasalsa as being funny. CK used one of mine in this thread. Now I don't know what you're talking about, unless you used one of mine somewhere else.
TheFreak: do you mean this one? I thought that I had read that before. ------------------ I've posted so much that what I say must be true. The latest on Maurice Taylor
I agree on Criscokidd that we should have Carlos start on the PF spot, I remember last season before he was injured, he played some good rebounding, boards and played good defense.Basically he can hustle on end to end of the court. I think he should get a new role this season. ------------------ Rudy T. will find and fulfill Rockets destiny.
Achebe -- yeah, that's it. You don't think CK could come up with that masterpiece on his own, do you? LOL. [This message has been edited by TheFreak (edited August 24, 2000).]
I am new to the BBS world, so forgive me if I break a few rules I don't know about yet. I do have to ask, why is everyone calling for the wiz head right now. Wouldn't it be fair to give him some time to show what game he is going to bring this year? He has grown close with Franchise and Cat and been playing in summer leagues, he has earned the right to at least be on the roster at the start of the season. If it doesn't work out....we have a lot of time to trade him (IMO - that won't go too well with Franchise and Cat).
Just out of curiousity, has someone come up with a list of small forwards that perform better than Walt and won't command more than his salary when they reach free agency? If Walt is so bad, what are the legitimate long-term solutions at small forward? I'm all for wanting to improve the team, but what are some realistic alternatives? ------------------ "There's 1,000 different things we're looking at, but there's not a lot of things there," he said. "The thing we have to remember-if nothing happens, there's still a positive in that, and that's a big positive." -- Rudy T.
Getting rid of Walt at this point serves no purpose unless we obtain another SF with the potential to start. Everyone was excited when Walt came aboard last season. However, when he didn't live up to the hype immediately he became the Derek Bell of the Rockets. Fortunately, Walt found his niche in the offense and started to perform on a regular basis for the last 20 games. True, we could due without his large salary, but dumping it for this season without getting someone to replace him directly would be pointless. ------------------ Don't you have anything better to do?
You see, this is what I'm talking about. Sit back and laugh about a post, then do nothing but gripe about the next one. TheFreak, you sound like Mo Taylor, griping about playing time. Everyone is getting soft around here. And allowing people to jack up a bunch of 8-exclamation point threads. Well, i'm not about to let the repetitive ESPN-style, 8-pointer posting flood this board unchallenged. You cannot separate !!!!!!!! posts from ! posts, that makes no sense at all. An eight pointer is to Vince what a ! is for DaDakota. DaDakota's exclamation points are lower simply because he attempts tougher (longer) posts......if they want a higher response count, they shouldn't shoot so many eights. This is why Vince will never lead the bbs in Post%. One of the main components of having a good percentage is POST SELECTION. By reading 8-ptrs, you take away the element of post selection. Post selection is one reason why Vince isn't setting the world on fire. Vince must GO!!!!!!!!
Don't mean to offend you or anyone else Freak. Trying to promote some interesting discussion by looking at some of the more colorful arguments. All of these posts are classics.
Are you out of your mind? Steve is the point guard, not shooting guard. Who exactly is going to draw the double team that will give Francis these open 3's? It sure as heck isn't going to be Carlos Rogers, and at the moment we don't have a plethora of low post threats to demand attention. We need Steve to be creating off the dribble, not waiting for the open 3. Also, Carlos can't play the three. ------------------ Current Rocket's Salary & Contract Info
