{Vid] The Lakers + Stern's refs versus Golden State Warriors

rocketsmetalspd · Apr 16, 2013

Let's see you will officiate the game on Wednesday. IF it is Joey Crawford and any one of this jokers it will be a bad night for the Rockets.

jlwee · Apr 16, 2013

bloodwings19 said: ↑

In 3 games, Lakers have shot 100 FTs. NBA would never say favoritism, but in general they prefer Lakers in the playoffs than Jazz, or even Rockets. Pretty interesting game if Lakers need this last game against the Rockets, I want to see how the refs behave. I'm sure they want the Laker clinch before the game, so it wouldn't be that blatant.
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Jazz vs grizzlies will be interesting. Most likely grizzlies will get 50 free throws.

TheShooter · Apr 16, 2013

I don't know if I'll watch the game because I know I will break my screen off because of the refs. Stern will make sure L.A wins.

BigMaloe · Apr 16, 2013

What's more interesting is the Utah Memphis game ..
. They will try and get a Memphis win so they don't have to go all out for the lakers...
Odd are they will make the playoffs although it is my current ultimate desire to knock the lakers out in a win or go home game for la...

GreatOne1978 · Apr 16, 2013

http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2013/04/13/did-the-referees-cost-the-warriors-a-win-at-the-lakers/

Warriors blew a 9 point 4th Q lead btw

Certainly, there were some questionable calls. (The Steph Curry foul on Steve Blake. Jarrett Jack getting knocked to the ground hard without a call. The contact on the left-hand layup by Klay Thompson, when Pau Gasol fell into the cameras, that should’ve been a three-point play.) And you can easily argue the referees were too much of a factor in the game.

But is that why the Warriors’ lost? Let’s look at this with a closer lense

* Dwight Howard took 22 of those 50. Part of the reason for the high free throw number was the Warriors’ obvious plan to foul Dwight instead of letting him get an easy basket. That not only sends Dwight to the line, but it puts the Warriors in the penalty. You can call it a good strategy, except he made 14 of them

* The Lakers took 16 free throws in the fourth quarter. They made 11. So they got 11 points off about 8 possessions. That’s just a third of their 33 fourth-quarter points.

Let’s just say the Warriors aren’t called for fouls and they just played those possessions. Well, Los Angeles shot 64.3 percent in the fourth quarter. How much would they have scored on those 8 possessions against the Warriors D? 12? 14? They might’ve made out better with the free throws

* The Lakers racked up 38 points from the free throw line. When they weren’t at the line, they shot 51.5 percent: 34 of 66. They made 12 of 25 from 3 (48 percent). That resulted in 80 points NOT FROM FREE THROWS.

Coming into the game, the Lakers were shooting 46 percent from the field and 35.4 from 3-point range. If the Warriors just hold the Lakers to their average, Los Angeles would have only made about 19 of their 2-pointers and about 9 of their 3-pointers (I rounded up). That amounts to 65 points not from free throws. Now we’re looking at the Lakers getting about 103 instead of 118.

* The Warriors took 97 shots (that doesn’t include free throws) and 29 of them were in the paint. That means roughly 70 percent of the Warriors’ shots were outside shots. Conversely, the Lakers took 66 shots (not including free throws). But they also took 29 shots in the paint. That means roughly 56 percent of their shots were from outside. We all know the calls go to the aggressor.

Clearly, the refs were calling it tight. The Lakers milked it by playing inside-out. The Warriors stayed outside.

* The Warriors rank No. 2 in the league in personal fouls committed. Is that because the referees job them every game? Or is it because they are a team of suspect individual defenders who compensate by reaching and slapping, trying to force turnovers? Or is it because they have gone small a lot, leaving them often helpless against bigger, physical players? Or is it because they, lately, are habitually not where they need to be, late on their rotations and unable to do much but foul?

***** In my opinion, the refs usually make the right call. I’m often amazed at how much replay bares them out. The problem often is the lack of consistency and skewed context. Technically, Barnes did foul Kobe. Hand-checked him when he made his move. But they don’t call that all the time. Replays showed Curry MIGHT HAVE reached through the screen and grabbed Blake. But in the context of time, situation, you don’t call that. He was 40 feet from the basket *****

As with any game, a number of things factor in. Sometimes, the refs make bad calls, or call the game too tight, or let too much slide. But also, sometimes the altitude is an issue. Sometimes you’re playing the fourth game in five nights. Sometimes you have travel issues and barely sleep. Sometimes guys just don’t have Sometimes the fans are so loud you can’t hear. Sometimes players catch a cold. Sometimes the other team is just feeling it, or are ice cold.

Those are all things that are out of the control of the Warriors. It all just comes with a season. The real story is how this team plays. All those variable are part of it. But they are just that — variables. What really matters are the constants. I believe Mark Jackson knows that. Which is why though he may not like officiating, you don’t see him leaning on that to pacify his wounded feelings.

Remember, they are a no excuse basketball team.
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megastahr · Apr 16, 2013

GreatOne1978 said: ↑

http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2013/04/13/did-the-referees-cost-the-warriors-a-win-at-the-lakers/

Warriors blew a 9 point 4th Q lead btw
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Payroll #sternsevilempire

CDrex · Apr 16, 2013

Realjad said: ↑

Lets do a comparison of free throws between the Jazz and Lakers over the last 10 games

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The video didn't really bother me. All but about 2 of those calls were either correct calls or incorrect calls that looked pretty correct in regular motion and were shown off by a close look.

This chart, however, is mindblowing.

tzou88 · Apr 16, 2013

CDrex said: ↑

The video didn't really bother me. All but about 2 of those calls were either correct calls or incorrect calls that looked pretty correct in regular motion and were shown off by a close look.

This chart, however, is mindblowing.
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This is why we're eff'ed and are doomed to play OKC in the 1st round.

kaleidosky · Apr 16, 2013

video was terrible. Too many valid foul calls included. And too many calls that were tough but can't argue with them in full speed. Plus some that needed a different angle or a few seconds earlier to actually know what happened. A few that were just flat bad calls also, but that's to be expected.

And the text in between...ugh. Just irritating

Karolik · Apr 16, 2013

Next Victim: The Houston Rockets

RedRedemption · Apr 17, 2013

GreatOne1978 said: ↑

http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2013/04/13/did-the-referees-cost-the-warriors-a-win-at-the-lakers/

Warriors blew a 9 point 4th Q lead btw
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Warriors blew that lead just like you've been blowing Kobe's **** all season.

hbomb · Apr 17, 2013

Realjad said: ↑

Lets do a comparison of free throws between the Jazz and Lakers over the last 10 games

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That table alone says so much.

Jazz have some how become the worst team in drawing FTs?

Lakers the first?

I'm expecting the same story tommorow, good thing Houston plays zero defense -- it will be hard for the refs to make calls.

Greg Smith, Asik will foul out before the 4th quarter.

Lin/Harden would have garnered 4-5 TO's based on offensive charges.

Paul and Gasol will roam free in the paint at will.

Normalus · Apr 17, 2013

Who want to bet that Greg Smith and DMo will foul out close to the record of NBA? :grin:

babyface44 · Apr 17, 2013

Jet036 · Apr 17, 2013

JMAD21 said: ↑

Our series against Dallas in 05 was just as bad as that 02 series! Of course that one doesn't get the same recognition because of the lack of two letters "LA"
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I think I once read somewhere that an official admitted that that series was rigged. I'll try to find it.

Jontro · Apr 17, 2013

Jet036 said: ↑

I think I once read somewhere that an official admitted that that series was rigged. I'll try to find it.
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I thought it was part of Donaghy's admission. I think he spoke of at least 3 games... one being the Lakers vs Kings, Rox vs Mavs, and the other on some Iverson games?

Anxiety Trooper · Apr 17, 2013

Jontro said: ↑

I thought it was part of Donaghy's admission. I think he spoke of at least 3 games... one being the Lakers vs Kings, Rox vs Mavs, and the other on some Iverson games?
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Correct

Aleron · Apr 17, 2013

The only way Greg Smith wouldnt foul out is if the refs decide not to call about 15 of his fouls.

BONIERO1576 · Apr 17, 2013

Zboy said: ↑

Most of the calls in that video are correct.

If there is a conspiracy, this video proves nothing.
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It would be a pretty dumb way to fix a game. The probabilty of missing free throws is pretty high. I understand that they got 50 attempts but they still only won by two. If this is a fix, it left a lot to chance.

rn_xw · Apr 17, 2013

This thread will identify the Lakers fans on the board.

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