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[UNOFFICIAL] Texans off-season thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by codell, Jan 1, 2018.

  1. justtxyank

    justtxyank We are all Kosh
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    Make it worse because you aren't contending next year and he won't be here the year after.
     
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  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Pretty hard sell given that the team has a fairly high ceiling if players come back from injury. You'd be punting at least a few seasons in order to tear things down for the sake of tearing things down. You'd basically be setting up the Texans to break the record for most points given up that they set this season.

    Their goal will be to win as many games as possible because they'll want to keep their jobs, you can't do that by giving up before the off-season even fully begins.
     
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  3. justtxyank

    justtxyank We are all Kosh
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    Holding onto a mediocre veteran at $7 million who is part of a bad position group is just pointless to me. You can sign some mediocre veterans for less and hope one of them has a bounce back year that you can capitalize on.
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    He's the best you have and considerably better than you could get for that kind of money. if you start out of "mediocre" and add some good to it, you get better than mediocre, if you start with absolutely nothing.....well you end up with mediocre if you are lucky. You can do a LOT worse than having Kjax as your #2 CB and if you can manage to make him your #3 CB then you are doing damn well.

    Dump KJax and you'll need at least 3 CB's, keep him and you only need 2 assuming Kevin Johnson is a complete bust....which could very well be the case.

    Honestly best case scenario has JJO signing to stay on the cheap (though it would need to be fairly cheap to make it worth it), Kjax playing out his deal and potentially moving to safety after picking up a few CB's. That's the best way to field a secondary that would do a better job next season.

    I'd like to see the Texans make a run at DJ Hayden and/or Prince Amukamara. Hayden might want to come home, and might do so for a decent price, Amukamara would be expensive, but if you can make the secondary no longer a total weakness, the defense completely changes. IMO fixing the secondary is even more important than fixing the O line. We've seen Watson be able to operate behind the worst O line in the NFL and he did alright.
     
  5. showa13

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    Having a pass rush will help the secondary get better as they don’t have to cover for as long. I think with health in the front they get better, but I absolutely agree that the secondary is more important to fix than the OLine. They were putrid last year, as long as it’s kind of average Deshaun’s feet can keep him safe. I’d invest the draft on the OLine.
     
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  6. htownrox1

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    In only 7 games in DW4 rookie season he threw 19 TD’s and was the sure fire rookie of the year.

    He went into Seattle and New England unafraid and had them by their throats. With any kind of disciplined defense, we win those games.

    I know it’s a small sample size, but DW4 looks like the real deal. He alone will cover up many of the holes addressed.

    I don’t think this team is as far away with Watson at QB. Sure up the O line and do anything you can to improve the secondary, and honestly I think we’re really close.
     
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  7. sammy

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    Mercilus should rebound well from his pec injury. No way Mercilus isn’t here next season
     
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  8. panamamyers

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    After the Seattle game, I felt the texans were closer to a super bowl than they had ever been in their franchise history.
    They aren't far off with a healthy Watson, watt and mercilus. Shore up the line and secondary and you have a shot.
     
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  9. SC1211

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    You certainly need an o-line upgrade, but I'd prefer to shore up the secondary this year. With Watson, the o-line can be a little worse with his ability to move out of the pocket. We should be able to free a good chunk of cap space, so hope the Rick replacement is competent.
     
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    Cutting mercilus !? Are u crazy lol clowney and mercilus would be the 1 2 punch if watt gets hurt again you guys just want to cut everyone lol
     
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    2nd best player on defense he will be back dude just had 12 sacks 2 seasons ago
     
  12. codell

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    After 17 years, we have our franchise quarterback. I don't feel comfortable depending on his feet and 3rd round picks to keep him safe. The line should be priority #1 and then priority #2 in FA. Based on what we know, if both Mancz and Davenport are starting next season then our off-season will have been a partial failure.
     
  13. codell

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    You are probably right. Well probably have enough cap room that he wouldn't matter. But if his $5mil helps sign a franchise OL or DB.............
     
  14. panamamyers

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    I don't think we want Watson running much after two acl tears.
     
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  15. Mr. Clutch

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    I would look to poach someone from the Green Bay front office now that they are reassigning their GM


    But I would give them ultimate authority over the roster and coaching staff
     
  16. raining threes

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    Agreed,

    I would move KJax to S and draft a CB in the 3rd, plus add a vet in FA.

    Gotta fix the secondary.

    If the new GM can find an above avg OT in FA and Davenport can play an avg LT, then adding a couple of rookie OG's that preferably can develop into OT's in the future then maybe the future wont be as bleak as it appears at first glance.
     
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    So you dont want a GM who has experience working in a successful system and has history with the HC?
     
  18. Nimo

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    We need a coaching staff that will turn those good games vs NE and Seattle into wins.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    I want no one that has a history with the HC because I want a GM that will fire his ass if eh remains part of the problem as he's been the past 4 years.

    My criteria would be someone that will do at least as good of a job as Rick Smith did (it absolutely can get a lot worse) and someone willing to fire BOB if he remains worthless. If we can get both of those things out of the new GM, then I'll consider it a win.
     
  20. Mr. Clutch

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    I would say Green Bay has had some success.

    If you're limiting to history with HC, then you are limiting this to Gaine who was here when we made terrible moves or Caserio who is unlikely to be available.
     
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