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Ukraine scandal Megathread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Sep 18, 2019.

  1. mick fry

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    I said from the start Biden wasn't touching this one but it seems he’s going to have no choice, I guess the party figured he’s fading anyway we will throw him to the wolves if there’s a chance we can bring down Trump.
     
  2. AleksandarN

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    Watch that Orange bastard lose the election and proceed to not go quietly. The sad/scary part is I bet 15 percent of the population will believe him and something stupid and deadly will happen all because of this asshole. Mark my words Trump will rather burn the house down than admit he lost honestly. Sad but true.
     
  3. mick fry

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    No I wouldn’t have.
     
  4. dobro1229

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    What in God’s name are you talking about? The MEDIA produced things like the actual letter of intent for Trump Tower Moscow. You need to see it again?

    Yes... the media is often clumsy or in some cases part of the corruption (see FoxNews and Vice President Sean Hannity), but you don’t get to play the “cant believe the media” card anytime there is news that looks bad for Trump. It just makes you look like a hack trying to deflect from Trump and make the media the story instead of looking at the situation on its face.

    Most people here are saying “if true”, and that’s appropriate. Of course we shouldn’t take the reports as gospel truth.

    However there are things here that are incredibly important FACTS that have nothing to do with your BS deflection response:

    -Trumps personal attorney admitted on live TV that he’s been working to pressure Ukraine to investigate Biden
    -The TRUMP APPOINTED IG is the one who took this whistleblower complaint to be potentially illegal or a national security threat.
    -The DOJ and White House are obstructing Congress from getting this complaint (if it’s nothing... release it).

    Reg Biden/Ukraine:
    -it’s a fact that the White House has transcripts for every single call Biden made to Ukraine. If he did something wrong, release the transcripts.
    -The Trump admin has multiple investigative bodies. If this is about criminal wrongdoing of the US citizen, why would Trump not just ask his lackey Bill Barr to appoint a special counsel to investigate Biden and his son?

    So stop bitching about the media and focus on the facts we know. Screw the media reports from anonymous sources. We don’t need them to have a conversation and opinion about the matter with the FACTS we do know.

    Stop deflecting to serve your king.
     
  5. Nolen

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    It's kind of cute that conservative media and the conservative posters in this thread think that the connection to Biden is so scary for the left.

    If he and his son broke the law, let them be prosecuted.

    There - was that so hard, guys? Country before party. Give it a try.
     
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    In all seriousness, thanks for the honesty.
     
  7. cml750

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    FB sorry but that ship has sailed. The Mueller report found there was no conspiracy between Trump and Russia. As for obstruction, Mueller made no determination leaving it up to the AG who said there was no obstruction. That leaves it up to congress and unless I missed it there are no impeachment proceedings going on. In other words it is over. You can hold onto the fantasy if you want but in the end the whole thing was manufactured from the beginning. And in case you don't remember the "echo chamber " kept all of you thinking every single day Mueller would get Trump yet in the end yet here we are after listening to a feeble Mueller testify where it was obvious he had little to do with any of it leaving up to Weissmann and the rest of the partisans who could not pin anything on Trump.
     
  8. cml750

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    Keep hope alive.
     
  9. Nolen

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    I don't see all of these debunked stories about trump that our conservative friends are talking about.

    -The Mueller report proves that the president of the United States obstructed justice. (That should be impeachment right there, but Nancy doesn't want to hurt her odds in 2020.)
    -Most of the Steele dossier has been confirmed.
    -A lot of Trumps inner circle has either plead guilty to crimes or are indicted awaiting trial. His longtime personal lawyer and his former campaign manager are doing time in prison.
    -The aforementioned lawyer did indeed pay off a porn star to hush her story about sex with Trump. (Turns out they could have saved the money, Trump can just deny it and his cult followers will believe what he says.)
    -Trump settled out of court to the tune of millions over his fake university.

    None of these stories have been debunked. Any single one of these, and so many more, would have ended the career of another politician. Trump is safe from it because followers will believe anything he says. It is not partisan to say that those of you who overlook and excuse the above atrocities should be ashamed.
     
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    U so deranged u don’t kno it
     
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    Funny, you think regurgitating trump lies about the Mueller report (that has been released, so we know what it said, and we heard what Mueller said about the report) makes for a compelling argument.
     
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    Worked for him in 2016 ("russia, if your listening").
     
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    Simple solution...

     
  14. Trader_Jorge

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    Hunter Biden was paid $50,000 a month to do "work" for a Ukrainian gas company. This is the most blatant form of corruption. When this corruption was investigated, Joe Biden, as VP, withheld money to force the firing of the Ukrainian prosecutor. Biden has admitted this on video. This should be investigated and Trump is right to push for it.

    But the thought of accusing Trump of being in the wrong for advocating an investigation into corruption, after 2 years of a highly partisan actual investigation based on DNC lies about Trump, is typical liberal hypocrisy. Liberals have no moral compass, sense of decency, or self-awareness.

    Oh, and Joe Biden's Presidential run is now toast.

    GOOD DAY
     
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    When you have nothing else... troll. I seriously feel sorry for you and your TDS. Reality and facts no longer apply to your world.
     
  17. SWTsig

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    Just curious as to why you always trust what comes from the presidents mouth vs what doesn’t? I find it odd that people allow their political beliefs to act as their barometer of truth instead of objective facts. The same guy who bankrupted numerous companies, fabricates things like how large his rallies are and that Mexico will pay for walls and hires nothing but the “best” people and doesn’t need to read etc. has somehow earned your utmost trust but even the most credible sources, journalists and investigative reporters attempting to expose his numerous transgressions are all, unequivocally, lying.

    Trump was corrupt long before he became POTUS and it wasn’t exactly a secret. Crazy to think that a guy who has only ever looked out for his best interest warrants any loyalty whatsoever. And by crazy I mean pathetic. It’s almost as if y’all don’t know you could do better.
     
  18. AleksandarN

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    You should really pay attention to the world around you. If you did you would have realized almost all leaders of the western world wanted the prosecutor fired at that time.
     
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    ....aaaaaand now we learn the "whistleblower" complaint was based on hearsay. Unbelievable! Like fools, the media and liberals ate it up... they got played yet again. Shockingly, they still haven't learned their lesson!

    Oh, and Biden's campaign is now toast.

    GOOD DAY
     
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