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Trump: Transgenders no longer welcome in the military

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Jul 26, 2017.

  1. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

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    No...
    Obama who understands the difference between health and life insurance is better than Donald Trump at managing the world's largest bureaucracy and military.

    The "everyone is equally bad" shtick are for people who want to butt in on political debates but have no nuance to debate with.
     
  2. smitheygerard

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    So let's throw a giant fit over it trueeeeeeee. Lol sounds like somebody can't just use normal English vernacular instead of insulting people. But then again coming from someone like you it pretty much adds up.
     
  3. fchowd0311

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    Fit? You've spent an equal amount of time on this thread debating an alleged trivial matter according to you.

    This is a potlocsl debate forym. Just because people post a dissenting opinion doesn't mean a 'fit'.

    If you have tangible evidence that the current transgender personell in the military is eating funds away from the DOD and effecting our "defensive readiness' then ****ing show it. Other wise you are spewing **** from an uninformed position.
     
  4. fchowd0311

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    Poor soul. You must be struggling in high school currently. Which Twitch celebrity do you worship?

    I really hope that wasn't your attempt at a witty quip.
     
  5. London'sBurning

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    I disagree with the ban because TG soldiers aren't doing anything illegal. Again if you pay your taxes, abide by the law and are cleared by medical healthcare professional to be a soldier, then what's the ****ing problem?

    Please, point out the statistics that TG soldiers are whipping out their newly constructed penises in women's bathrooms and giving military so much grief. Please show me a single instance where a TG soldier has ruined military protocol. In fact show me many instances where TG soldiers are disrupting the military so I can support the notion that this is an issue. Then you'd have some statistical evidence of TG's disrupting the military. But you don't, because it's a non-issue.

    If you have no evidence that TG soldiers are disrupting our military, then essentially you're making an issue out of literally nothing, all to ostracize a minority portion of Americans that have elected to protect our country they love. And you're denying them that right because of what they do behind closed doors. No one is making you watch tranny p*rn. No tranny is offering to **** you in the ass or trick you into ****ing them. If you find that stuff, it's because YOU seek it out.

    I've asked friends that have served in the Navy and Army if they've knowingly worked with a TG soldier. They couldn't recall. Know why? They didn't pry into other soldier's personal lives to find out those details. When I go to the bank to a deposit some money into my checking account, I don't interrogate the bank teller if they're TG. I don't care to seek out that information. Did they deposit my money correctly? If so, that's all I care about. I don't seek out other information.

    Here's the thing. Statistically every single one of us has at least once in our lives had a conversation with a transgender person. Be it a bank teller, nurse, LEO, construction worker, housekeeping, or any legal profession. Sometimes it's obvious. Other times not so much. These people contribute to society by doing their job, absent any discussion of what they're packing between their legs, and I've never once dealt with any sort of disruption from a transgender person. I wouldn't even know who is transgender to be honest unless they said so or it was blatantly obvious.

    Typically the right are able to find anecdotal story of a transgender person in the military disrupting protocol and run that story to the ground. You guys can't even do that in this instance. And please explain why Trump did not consult the Pentagon or military generals if this was an issue. Please explain why the Pentagon wants nothing to do with this ban and why the head of Homeland Security has resigned in lieu of this ban. Don't you think if transgender people in the military was an issue, you'd hear it from the Pentagon and military officials about it? Don't you think they'd provide case reports of disruptive transgender soldiers to back up their claim? Why don't they?
     
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  6. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

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    Ya, Afghanistan was a lost cause. I was just a mere enlisted guy. Why do you have Marine in quotation marks?
     
  7. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    If already posted, sorry, but what the actual f***?

    https://thinkprogress.org/transgender-military-viagra-5a4f3b38e445?gi=237a520b9fe8

    If true, seriously, what the actual F***?
     
  8. smitheygerard

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  11. smitheygerard

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    Yeah bc tens of millions of people suffer from an actual medical condition called ED more than those that aren't happy with a penis and feel the need to change, or visa versa.

    Also Sildenafil may not be cheap, but it's certainly cheaper than sex change operations. I mean what the hell, are we suddenly going to become Venezuela? A country who pays for any citizen to have sex change operations because they frown upon homosexuality?

    My lord these are the days. If I wake up tomorrow and I'm not happy with my penis at least I can go rant about it on Clutchfans. :)
     
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  12. fchowd0311

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    If am not, can you just explicitly tell me?

    I honestly don't get it. Maybe I am dumb.
     
  13. fchowd0311

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    I've asked this multiple times now, but you refuse to answer.

    We have a case study of 4 years of 5000 transgender individuals serving. Can you find the cost to 'defensive readiness'?
     
  14. smitheygerard

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    I don't really care, and that's been my point the whole time. We all know the reasons for doing this are BS. Trump hates LGBTs. I don't, but I just don't give a damn about this ban.

    And I promise you most military members don't give a flying sex change operation about this either.

    I'm sorry this has so deeply affected your life.
     
  15. fchowd0311

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    oh and why is that?

    I've actually gone through this once before on this message board. I'm sure other posters will remember.

    What makes you think it's so foreign and rare to find a Marine grunt vet on an internet forum? There are plenty of us!
     
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  16. fchowd0311

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    No, it just deeply effects the lives of 5000 enlisted service members and potential service members who want to serve and reap the benefits of service.

    Just think through your logic. This doesn't effect anyone regardless except a few thousand service members... in a negative manner. SO you support an action that has no tangible befits besides harming a few thousand individuals? Why? To drink libtard tears? Seems kinda cruel to me.
     
  17. fchowd0311

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    Then why do you think I'm a 'fake ass marine'?

    This is going to be fun btw.
     
  18. smitheygerard

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    Alright fine I'll bite one more time... If I went through my day giving a damn about problems that affect less than 0.01 percent of the population I think my basal ganglia would explode.

    If this is such a dear issue to you then you should realize that writing your local government representative is a better option than bantering with a "troll" on Clutchfans.

    I don't give a flying **** about this issue or the military's policies. I've never been in it. I work in the medical field. Luckily I've been enjoying some time off by truly upsetting you and apparently everything you stand for.

    Again, I sincerely apologize if I ruffled some feathers. You can LITERALLY SPEND THE NEXT 10 YEARS trying to convince me I'm wrong, and my opinion is not going to change. I don't even impact that decision, so why would you even bother?

    But I'm fine continuing to chill and catch up on the new season of HOC while I banter back and forth with you, if that is what you please...
     
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  19. fchowd0311

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    I have a question. Do you think Marines are hive minds that all have the same exact political interests and love the same movies?
     
  20. fchowd0311

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    I just don't get the underling logic behind your premise. If this hardly effects non transgender people, then why restrict avenues for transgendered people? It makes no sense. Trump just didn't have to tweet.
     
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