Trump already saving American jobs - Carrier to keep jobs in the US

lol....i would rather keep the automated plants in the US ...lol...because automated plants require higher tech jobs to maintain ... lol ...

Only a Luddite would prefer jobs to go overseas in fear of losing them to automation.

 

All of this is really silly. We know protecting a few here and there isn't going to do much of anything. More like ads, showbiz, feel-good fake unsustainable moves than anything of substance.

Meanwhile, the real future in real job... clean energy that will drive the new economy... let's see how well it work if Trump indeed will take the US off that and re-focus on a dying industry of coal and in oil that is clearly not the future. Of all the trade war talk, China is probably at least happy they get to continue to be the leader in creating million of new jobs, high paying and sustainable with their continue commitment to new energy.

 

mean while.

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...-dominance-of-renewable-energy-and-technology

China cementing global dominance of renewable energy and technology
It now owns five of the world’s six largest solar-module manufacturing firms and the largest wind-turbine manufacturer



China is leading the world in renewable energy, investing both domestically and internationally. Photograph: Tyrone Siu/Reuters
Michael Slezak



Friday 6 January 2017 04.00 ESTLast modified on Friday 6 January 2017 04.02 EST

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China is cementing its global dominance of renewable energy and supporting technologies, aggressively investing in them both at home and around the globe, leaving countries including the US, UK and Australia at risk of missing the growing market.

A report by the Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis (Ieefa) found China’s dominance in renewables is rapidly spreading overseas, with the country accelerating its foreign investment in renewable energy and supporting technologies.

Analysing Chinese foreign investments over US$1bn, Ieefa found 13 in 2016, worth a combined $32bn. That represented a 60% jump over similar investments in 2015.

China was already widely recognised as the largest investor in domestic renewable energy, investing $102bn in 2015, according to Bloomberg New Energy Finance – more than twice that invested domestically by the US and about five times that of the UK.

The big foreign investments in 2016 included two in Australia, two in Germany and two in Brazil, as well as deals in Chile, Indonesia, Egypt, Pakistan and Vietnam.

• In Australia, China Light & Power struck a $1.1bn deal, buying power from wind and solar farms.
• In Chile, Tianqi Lithium spent $2.5bn acquiring a 25% stake of a lithium miner and processor. (Lithium is essential for lithium batteries used in electric vehicles and home battery storage.)
• In Germany, Beijing Enterprises Holdings Ltd spend $1.6bn on a Waste to Energy development.

The report noted the global expansion cements China’s total domination of renewable energy growth globally. China now owned:

• Five of the world’s six largest solar-module manufacturing firms
  
• The largest wind-turbine manufacturer
• The world’s largest lithium ion manufacturer
• The world’s largest electricity utility

Tim Buckley, director of Ieefa and author of the report, said the election of Donald Trump in the US and lack of supportive policy in Australia left those countries at risk of missing a huge opportunity.

“At the moment China is leaving everyone behind and has a real first-mover and scale advantage, which will be exacerbated if countries such as the US, UK and Australia continue to apply the brakes to clean energy,” he said.

“The US is already slipping well behind China in the race to secure a larger share of the booming clean energy market. With the incoming administration talking up coal and gas, prospective domestic policy changes don’t bode well,” Buckley said.

But because of the magnitude of opportunities in investment, technology and jobs opportunity expected in the future, he said there was still time for other countries to catch up.

“We are still in a relatively early stage of the transition, so the next couple of years will be defining in terms of which countries gain the major slices of the market,” Buckley said.

 

It is truly amazing how much criticism Trump takes over issues about jobs, NAFTA, and infrastructure.

• Did ClutchFans criticize Bernie Sanders as severely when he whined about job loss to offshoring?
• Did ClutchFans criticize Bernie Sanders as severely when he whined about wanting to tear up NAFTA?
• Did ClutchFans criticize Bernie Sanders as severely when he whined about there not being enough infrastructure spending?

You really can't make up the disparity in criticism that the two receive on ClutchFans. Bernie Sanders was far more radical on some of these issues than Donald Trump. Sanders wanted to literally tear up the NAFTA treaty because of job loss to Mexico. Racist? Xenophobe? Misogynist?

 

This little pig made his house with straw.

 

Sorry you missed the context of that statement. We've been automating jobs and adding new ones under Bush Jr and Obama. It will continue with Trump in the short term since he's being handed off a stable economy.

 

That's why I didn't support Bernie and that's why I don't like populism. It's so based in the now and generally doesn't take long term vision into account. Infrastructure is something that has been neglected for years and is relatively low hanging fruit in terms of ways to improve the economy, noearly every candidate has mentioned it.

 

People are back of the SUV binge. They are pessimistic on small cars.

 

In the long-term we'll all be dead.

 

Window dressing. None of this is actually trying to solve the systemic issue.

Manufacturing production has gone up in the past few years within our borsers people. Ask yourself why that is and yet manfucaturing jobs have dropped. NOTHING Trump proposed or desires will solve the actual underlying issue.

The sad thing is he'll have onsies and twosies CEOs **** sucking Trump and stroke his ego. Unfortunately there aren't enough CEOs who desire to **** suck Trump to actually solve the manfucaturing job outsource issue.

This is NOTHING but window dressing. Only his acolytes and Facebook meme political commentators fall for this type of propaganda.

 

Well, I'm waiting for the greatest re-negotiation ever on all the existing trade deals. Just wait and see! The best!

 

The Democratic Party's new 2020 presidential campaign slogan: Your livelihoods are window dressing.

 

Cohete, if my analysis is true and yes, it very well might be incorrect, Democrats will not need to play mental gymnastics of trying to lessen the achievement of a surging manfucaturing jobs market because common sense and global trends show absolty zero promise of a surge in manfucaturing jobs. Trump promised rainbows and puppies. Hillary promised education to help those who are underskilled in the modern manfucaturing job market. So instead of operating a machine in a manufacturing plant they learn how to code a machine.

 

Whatever happened to the party of personal responsibility? You folks sure sound like a bunch a democrats blaming everyone else but yourselves for not adapting. They got trade schools and community colleges in the rust belt as there have been trades with acute shortages, especially with a demographic hitting retirement age. Folks need to pull themselves up by the boot strap or end up being led by a charlatan.

 

People need jobs, not welfare checks.

 

People need skills to get the jobs. How do people get the skills?

Indeed.com has lots of jobs but not enough qualified applicants. Wages are consistently rising again signaling a stronger economy and a higher demand for workers.

 

It's almost as if an increase in demand for workers causes an increase in wages. Hmmm, where have I heard that before?

Anyway, if you wanted educated underemployed workers, look toward the Bernie Bros and the Occupy Wall Streeters.

 

Yep. The economy has been consistently improving and the need for workers has been increasing. Props to obama?

I was thinking more of those in coal country and the rust belt who choose to not retrain themselves and get new skills. Personal responsibility.

 

No we need coders and engineers. Manfucaturing is becoming a high skill proffesion. We don't need humans soldering circuits anymore. We need people to code the machines that are automated to solder.

 

Why does it need to be an either/or situation? We can still keep our physical manufacturing jobs and automation jobs.

Once physical manufacturing jobs goes overseas, they are lost once they switch over to automation. Do you think Americans are the only ones that can engineer and design automation jobs?

Controlling the actual imports and exports of products produced are just as important as the jobs themselves.

Hillarys idea to improve education and teach more people to 'code those machines' is silly. How are you going to teach people who previously would have done manufacturing jobs when they can barely pass high school, if they do at all?

America has one of the biggest poverty problems in 1st world nations and you have those who think we can magically educate all of these people, let our manufacturing jobs go to Mexico and China while we become a society of nothing but engineers, doctors, rocket scientist and lawyers.