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Toyota Center Lower Bowl Solution?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by SuperBeeKay, Jan 20, 2010.

  1. hakeem94

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    nice idea!
     
  2. justtxyank

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    The Rockets do not have much love from casual Houston fans. It's harder to resell those tickets. You go on flashseats 5 minutes before the games and there are TONS of tickets still for sale. I've struggled to get clients to go with me to Rocket games. Offer up Texans or Astros and there's no problem!

    Just have to live with it.
     
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    Why would you pay a 30% discount when you've already missed 50% of the game?
     
  4. Jake Tower

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    30% of the price means 70% discount
     
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    ah. I misread it. I thought he meant 30% off ticket price.
     
  6. dje243

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    He's not saying to give a 30% discount he's saying 30% of the total price to other people already at the game. It's sort of like upgrading your seat at half time. I think at the right price-point, for some people, it would be worth it.
     
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    I'm very lucky that my company has some pretty awesome seats that I get to sit in from time to time. I can tell you that the issue goes further than just empty seats, unfortunately.

    I went to a WFC game with my brother last year, and we got scolded numerous times by the elderly couple sitting next to us because we were standing up and getting too loud. Obviously this didn't really influence us at all because it was the freaking western conference finals, but I was really disappointed to have that happen, especially during such a crucial game.

    Another thing - Fertitta is a businessman and a specialist in the entertainment industry. The guy knows how to appeal to his customers and the changes hes already made to the stadium are really impressive. Honestly, maybe too impressive. When the stadium is full of entertainment options aside from the game itself, you're obviously going to have some more empty seats...but at the end of the day, those tickets are getting sold, and the team is bringing in extra revenue.

    I'm not sure what the solution is, or if there even is a real solution. Crowd energy definitely influences both the players and the overall experience for fans. But ticket sales give us the ability to pay for top-tier talent and dip into the luxury tax. It'd be awesome to have a better crowd, but it's also awesome having a contenting team. Not necessarily saying the two are mutually exclusive, but that seems to be the situation we've found ourselves in.

    At the end of the day, we're looking at several upcoming years paying the luxury tax, so corporations paying elevated prices for lower bowl seating is an overall net-positive, IMO.
     
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  8. Redfish81

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    Tell Tillman not to charge the ticket owners a 20% fee to sell their tickets.

    2 tickets including playoffs on row 11 and we are pushing like 30k a year. How many people that actually like basketball and aren't just doing it for corporate stuff can afford that? Then if you want to sell your tickets you get the 20% vig to Tillman. People tend to go to the games even though they don't want to be there rather than take a massive loss on the tickets. The end result is you sit their on your phone or hang out in the lounges if you have access.
     
  9. ipaman

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    I've heard people telling me **** or laughing at me for being up and loud but I NEVER respond. 100% focused on the game and the court. It's background noise despite the fact I hear them. It works and a bonus, it pissed them off even more when you ignore them LOL!
     
  10. s3ts

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    It's a 70% discount. If the ticket was 100 dollars, you'd pay 30 bucks for it.

    You can tweak the numbers, I don't care if you want to sell it at 15 bucks when original price was 100. I'd spend some extra cash to move to the lower bowl legally.
     
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  11. Garner

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    This is a ridiculous idea for a number of reasons, but to think people are going to be jumping out of their seats to pay 30% of a $100 ticket is just nuts.

    The prevailing thought is that the lower bowl is cost prohibitive to the “real fans”, which, how stupid to think real fans cant both have discretionary income and sit quietly to enjoy the game, but I digress...

    So the solution is to introduce another financial transaction?

    If you’re willing to “pay some extra cash” to move to the lower bowl legally, then just buy the lower bowl ticket.
     
  12. YOLO

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    and actually be able to be their for the entire game and not just after halftime. genius
     
  13. dje243

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    You act as if the only reason people don't buy lower bowl tickets on a regular basis is because they're literally unable to. Some people just choose not to spend that much money on single game tickets. You can't say definitively that no one would take advantage of an offer of an in-game seat upgrade at a ridiculous discount. I think its a decent idea.
     
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    Also, I think you're underestimating how buyer behavior can change in different scenarios. Outside of a game, paying $8 for a cheap beer sounds ridiculous. Once you're there though things can change. Before what didn't seem worth it now does (especially when you're throwing big discounts into the mix).
     
  15. YOLO

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    what he's saying isn't really wrong either. you're essentially paying $100 at minimum extra for club seats to move down after halftime when you could of just used that money from the beginning on top of what you paid to get into the lower bowl, and watch it down their from the very start
     
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    At this point, its more apathy than cost. The city is apathetic towards a not great Rockets team... that may be worse than just being upset that they're sucking.
     
  17. dje243

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    That math doesn't work out. The difference in pricing between lower club seats and upper club seats is significant. A cursory glance at stub hub shows tickets ranging 100-200 for rows in the late teens and 20's and 400-600 for seats in the single digits (there are exceptions of course).
     
  18. YOLO

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    you can easily find lower bowl seats for the $120+ plus you'd be spending. if you need to be in the club seats specifically then yeah of course you'd have to pony up more
     
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    Again, I said you can tweak the numbers. so if it needs to be 15%, or 5% of the original price, I'm fine w/ that. So the big deal you're making at the beginning is a moot point.

    I never said "real fans" need to be in the lower seats. I never said that. You use quotes as a feature on the actual forum, but you don't read the actual damn thing. I said that if you're in the lower bowl and you're friggn late -- as in, you're getting there at the half time, then you deserve to have your seat be open for sale.

    It seems to me you've not looked at ticket prices. Nose bleeds can be a 100, and then a corner seat in the lower bowl can be 270 or greater.

    If I can move down to the lower bowl at 200, I'm doing that 100% of the time rather than paying full price for those seats.
     
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  20. YOLO

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    are you specifically talking about the club seats sections? if so the post is a bit misleading

    Bc you can easily find a lower level corner seat for less than 200 and watch the game down their from the start. Those are not 270 or higher. the prices for those are the actual club seats
     

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