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Times of Israel on Casspi + Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Nov 3, 2013.

  1. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Contributing Member

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    The article is about the HOU-DAL game when two Israeli players (Casspi and Gal "Israeli Chandler Parsons" Mekel) played against each other in the NBA for the first time. It was posted in the Rockets twitter thread but kind of gets buried there.

    I think the interesting part for fans here discuss how Casspi fits in with the Rockets. I especially like what Kelvin Sampson said about him

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/?p=734492

    Sampson puts it really well about Casspi playing the 4 vs. the 3. Further, I think this is probably true for a number of NBA players. Coaches don't play them as 4s because they don't fit the Karl Malone physical profile and because they have some perimeter skills, but these guys are almost always better off as 4s than 3s. I think JVG said it about Andres Nocioni and Travis Outlaw a few years ago. Even Carlos Delfino, who really is a natural 2/3, is rather ordinary as a wing, but was rather awesomely effective as a 4.
     
  2. CXbby

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    Another NBA player who could benefit by going from a mediocre wing to an effective 4: Chandler Parsons.

    Although, need more sand in his pants.
     
  3. crash5179

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    I might agree with you except Chandler is clearly better than mediocre. That is such a ridiculous comment thrown as an extension of your Hayward better than Parsons debate you have running in another thread. But that's ok, continue to make yourself look silly all you want.
     
  4. CXbby

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    Chandler Parsons is basically the definition of mediocre. And he thanks his lucky stars every night that he has Harden/Lin/Howard to create wide open layups and corner 3s for him. If he was stuck as the #1 option on a crappy team like Hayward, he would be averaging sub 40% from the field. The guy can't even break down Mike Harris off the dribble.

    I said this months ago:

    Omri Casspi is what Chandler Parsons would look like on a bad team. As the season rolls on, it is going to be increasing obvious that they are similar caliber players.
     
  5. crash5179

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    Whatever dude, believe what you will. Maybe using Hayward as a number one option is why Utah is 0 - 3. CP25 was the Rockets 2nd best offensive option most of last season even when Jeremy was being ignored by opposing defenses.

    CP25 is a roll player, but he is an exceptional roll player. If as you say (and I disagree) Hayward is a number one option, he is not a very good number one option.
     
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    :)

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/hoy_en_la_revolucion/10652401965/" title="casspiof_Arabia-838364294-large by *The last son of krypton*, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7452/10652401965_1d0f1d9586_z.jpg" width="532" height="640" alt="casspiof_Arabia-838364294-large"></a>
     
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    Are you doubting Cxbby's basketball knowledge? When will you fools learn?

    Parsons = Mediocre

    Marcus Morris = Franchise player on Carmelo Anthony's level.
     
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  8. CXbby

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    No offense, but reading comprehension might not be your strong suit.

    Also never heard of 'roll players' before but they sound delicious.
     
  9. crash5179

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  10. Carl Herrera

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    This is a Casspi thread. Take your Lin discussions to appropriate threads.
     
  11. crash5179

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    Really, lose the argument and concentrate on typos.
     
  12. Normalus

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    His stats actually looks the same as last year (only 3 games, so shooting% is non factor yet). Soooo....between starting caliber player and bust playerthere is just a small bridge?
     
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    How do you not know how to spell "role player"?
     
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    How could Howard make such a blasphemous mistake....
     
  15. CXbby

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    There is no argument when you can't even understand what I am saying. Hayward is the number one option on the Jazz because they suck, not the other way around. Just like Arron Afflalo is the number 1 option for Orlando. That doesn't mean I believe either of them are superstars, that's just silly for you to even suggest. However, if you put Parsons in that same role, as Hayward, he would look absolutely terrible - like Casspi did in Cleveland.

    On the other hand, if you put Hayward in Parsons' role next to 2 superstars, people would be talking about him like he's the next Kawhi Leonard or next allstar.

    But back on topic, and why I even brought up Parsons' name:

    If we can use Parsons more as a PF, which seems to be the plan, I think he has a chance to become a more effective player. A power forward capable of knocking down 3s and driving into the lane for the pass or bucket creates all sorts of havoc for defenses. Especially when you have Dwight Howard covering for them on the other end of the court.

    A small forward who does absolutely nothing at an elite level can never impact the game in the same degree. This goes for both Parsons and Casspi. Which is why you will see both much improved this year, because the coaching staff will use them in a way that maximizes their effectiveness: as PFs.
     
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    no he did mean roll player.

    [​IMG]
     
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    You're so incorrect that it'd be funny if it weren't so pathetic. Did you even watch the game last night? If you would have actually the ******* game and not 1-2 plays, you would have seen Parsons drive multiple times to the basket for easy scores.

    Oh, yeah, I remember this guy- Marcus Morris is the face of the franchise. Yeah, spot on for that one, buddy.
     
  18. CXbby

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    Calm down Robyn.
     
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    I can't compare Casspi and Parsons at this time, but Parsons seems better off fast breaks and can alley-oop. Although I would agree that both Parsons and Casspi have a hard time creating shots for themselves, I would not call Parsons a mediocre player. Parsons is definitely an above average player capable of becoming an All-Star caliber player. Whether he will become an All-Star, I don't know.

     
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    Persuasive argument.
     

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