The rockets lack one thing to compete with the warriors

alethios · Nov 20, 2017

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A defensive kd stopper. I am going to suggest something that I know already y'all are going to hate. But if I were the rockets I would look into trading Eric Gordon for MKG.

Y'all won't like it because MKG can't shoot.
Y'all overvalue Eric Gordon way too much.
You think either Capella or Tucker is "good enough."
Y'all are too analytics driven and MKG's value can't be measures by stats you value.

The problem is that while you all have a backcourt that can compete with the warriors. The difference is KD. Period.

If you look around the nba at players that can be elite stoppers: Lebron, Kawhi, Draymond. The list is pretty short. MKG can neutralize KD to an extent, and it would help the rockets get bigger.

Capella
MKG
Ariza
Harden
Paul

The thing is, I don't know if charlotte would make that deal. MKG is just 24, but I would offer it and see.
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lionaire · Nov 20, 2017

Would do it....if the Hornets added Monk

RHU525 · Nov 20, 2017

Y'all crazy our KD stopper is Chris Paul, not MKG who can't shoot to save his life. He would be like having Brewer all over again

Killatron 2000 · Nov 20, 2017

Thanks @Codman for roasting that OP turkey for Thanksgiving.

Htownballer38 · Nov 20, 2017

Mods please lock this thread up.

smitheygerard · Nov 20, 2017

If people stopped responding to his threads and didn't feed the troll he might be forced to crawl back home and play splatoon 2.

(Yes I understand the irony in that I'm writing in his thread.)

RockWest · Nov 21, 2017

Rockets4lf said: ↑

trade ariza for thompson and you have your nba champion right there
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Trade Bobby Brown for Draymond Green and we will win it all.

DrNuegebauer · Nov 21, 2017

Sorry, I'm late to the party. But trading EG for MKG??

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That's bad, even by whats standards.

JayAllJay · Nov 21, 2017

knote32 said: ↑

That is completely r****ded, and truly shows your basketball IQ.

The Rockets have 3 of the best SF defenders in the NBA.

Stop starting dumb threads.
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JayAllJay · Nov 21, 2017

what said: ↑

A defensive kd stopper. I am going to suggest something that I know already y'all are going to hate. But if I were the rockets I would look into trading Eric Gordon for MKG.

Y'all won't like it because MKG can't shoot.
Y'all overvalue Eric Gordon way too much.
You think either Capella or Tucker is "good enough."
Y'all are too analytics driven and MKG's value can't be measures by stats you value.

The problem is that while you all have a backcourt that can compete with the warriors. The difference is KD. Period.

If you look around the nba at players that can be elite stoppers: Lebron, Kawhi, Draymond. The list is pretty short. MKG can neutralize KD to an extent, and it would help the rockets get bigger.

Capella
MKG
Ariza
Harden
Paul

The thing is, I don't know if charlotte would make that deal. MKG is just 24, but I would offer it and see.
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Your avatar says it all

Deuce · Nov 21, 2017

I enjoyed this mic drop post. I have re-read it several times.

Codman said: ↑

1. This is coming from a poster who has so desperately wanted his/her team to beat the Rockets each season that he/she is blinded by an arrogance that stems from a faulty belief system. You may be an "expert fan" for the Grizz, but based on this post, your understanding of the Rockets and their vision is about as solid as Stromile Swift's jumper.

2. MKG is not a "stopper" in any sense of the word. In fact, around the league, including by his peers, he's considered significantly overrated. Sure, he was a high draft pick, but what has he done to impact his team to the point of making a large-scale trade for his services? The fact that you mention MKG, while talented, is beyond ridiculous. I can give you 10-15 more options that make more sense for the Rockets, not just to focus on KD, but for the future. You seem to believe that the Rockets are ONLY playing to beat the Warriors. In fact, the Rockets are playing to win and beat everyone. The Warriors do not live and die by KD, yet, you seem to imply that MKG would allow us to ignore Steph, Dray, Iggy, etc....

3.We don't OVERVALUE Eric Gordon at all. The reigning 6th man of the year much more talented and versatile than what you "wrote" above. You don't consider his value on defense or the hustle plays that go unnoticed. You also fail to notice how strong he is when it comes to defending stronger guys in the post. And, above all, you've failed to realize that a shooter with infinite range, the ability to drive and finish and take the tough shots is much more difficult to find than a one-freakin' MKG.

4. Trevor doesn't get the respect that he deserves. He is one of the last of the remaining "elite stoppers." Has he lost a few steps? Sure, but with his length, he is easily our best go-to defender. He forces guys like LeBron to shoot fadeaways. But, and a big BUT (ha), he makes every opponent's shot more difficult. If it goes in, fine, but Trevor has mastered the art of making each shot require more variance. He forces guys left, right and deacclerates his movement to force their vertical into an awkward motion.

Why do you think Kobe trusted him so much in final moments? In Washington, why was he always on the floor against the best player? It's because he is exceptional at making shots difficult, and when or if those shots drop, they're relatively lucky. There are times Trevor plays defense as best as you can on someone, and the shot still goes in (Same as Shane Battier). The fact that the shot goes in doesn't make his attempt weak, it just makes the shot superior.

*I could go all day about Dray being an "Elite Stopper," but he's only considered that because of his supporting cast. Put him on, say, Orlando, and his defense becomes a liability. His jumper becomes common, and he's no longer the Shi* in the bay.

5. NO ONE claims Capella is good enough for the long term. He's young, he is learning. Is he doing a pretty damn good job? Hell yes, and I have been his greatest critic since day one. He has been uber-efficient and as you should know, he has the highest fg pct. in the league. Clint does what is asked of his role very, very well. Is he a championship-caliber center on offense and defense? No. But, we also have an experienced NeNe who makes up on offense what Clint lacks. As for Tucker, please look beyond scoring. See: rebounding, pressure, crisp passing, leadership and hitting big shots. He is one of the toughest guys in the league and he's still getting into shape from his injury.

You probably forgot who D Morey is, but understand that 15 games into the season isn't his end game. He's looking for the next big change to separate the men (the Rockets) from the boys (the Grizz). Security in multiple positions will be here shortly, in the same way I told you Luc would be here as a security blanket to Trev/Tuck.

Normally, I wouldn't respond in this manner to such a post, but when you make ridiculous claims about our need for a KD stopper, while lacking all sense of valid evidence or an understanding of chemistry and team vision, I could not help myself.

And cheers to Chandler Parsons! That Dallas contract sure didn't stop you from stacking more cheese! Dame and CJ sure miss you in Portland!
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Pen15clubber · Nov 21, 2017

Deuce said: ↑

I enjoyed this mic drop post. I have re-read it several times.
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My personal favorite is when @what claimed that the Grizzlies have owned the rockets for 8 years and that the rockets should have their pride checked, when in fact we have split the last 5 seasons and have a winning record against them overall in the last 8. Dude has no idea what he is talking about 95% of the time

Rocket River · Nov 21, 2017

The Rockets Lack REF HUSH MONEY
That is all

Rocket River

rockpileindisma · Nov 21, 2017

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?threads/why-i-am-no-longer-a-rockets-fan-a-revelation.96439/

And yet here we are 12 years later and his new favorite team maxed out parsons

Os Trigonum · Nov 21, 2017

rockpileindisma said: ↑

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?threads/why-i-am-no-longer-a-rockets-fan-a-revelation.96439/

And yet here we are 12 years later and his new favorite team maxed out parsons
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It’s a shame that thread is closed.

rockpileindisma · Nov 21, 2017

Os Trigonum said: ↑

It’s a shame that thread is closed.
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Need to get that open

brownxmas · Nov 21, 2017

We already have a KD stopper in training named Joe Cheeee. BTW, who is MKG?

brownxmas · Nov 21, 2017

brownxmas said: ↑

We already have a KD stopper in training named Joe Cheeee. BTW, who is MKG?
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Michael Kidd-Gilcrest... Luc RBM has a better chance at slowing KD

Reeko · Nov 21, 2017

rockpileindisma said: ↑

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?threads/why-i-am-no-longer-a-rockets-fan-a-revelation.96439/

And yet here we are 12 years later and his new favorite team maxed out parsons
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lol, wow

photojoe · Nov 21, 2017

We are still talking about this bogus idea of a trade?

what

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