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The Rockets are one of the WORST 3-point shooting teams in the league. They need shooters bad.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bmd, Jan 11, 2014.

  1. bmd

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    The Rockets are #24 in 3pt% at only 34.1%. There are only 6 teams in the NBA with a worse percentage. Those are the Kings, Bobcats, Clippers, 76ers, Bulls, and Pistons.

    In losses, they are only shooting 28.8% from 3.

    And amazingly, the Rockets have the 3rd best True Shooting Percentage in the league at 56.7%. This means that the offensive style the Rockets run works. Despite terrible 3-point shooting, they are still scoring efficiently.

    Imagine if they had the shooters to make this offense work. If they shot 38% from 3, which would be 5th in the league, they would average 9.98 made 3's per their 26.3 attempts they take per game. They currently average 9.0 made 3's per 26.3 attempts.

    That may not seem like a big difference, but it averages to 3 ppg more, which would bring their average up from 105.1 to 108.1... good for 2nd in the league.

    Their point differential would go from +3.1 to +6.1, which is good for 4th in the league, with only Indiana, San Antonio, and OKC ahead.

    Long story short, 34% from 3 is pretty bad for a team that relies so heavily on the 3-point shot.
     
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  2. EightDoobies

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    Well, thats what we thought Casspi and Garcia was going to be for us :(.
     
  3. Crashlanded19

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    A lot our guys shoot contested 3s..most our 3s don't come in the flow of the offense too often...it's always just pass around the 3pt line and whoever gets a little space shoot. It would be great if we had a few plays to run when we need a 3 bad..but it's amazing that a professional basketball team doesn't run any plays it's literally pick up ball!
     
  4. markusbrutus

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    Yeah.... those two are pretty much ineffective this season.
     
  5. Voice of Aus

    Voice of Aus Contributing Member

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    u mean like this
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  6. bmd

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    Most teams, at any level, run very few set plays.

    They will run an offense that keeps people moving.

    The Rockets' offensive philosophy is basically penetrate and dish from the dribble drive. Getting into the paint is basically every team's goal, but the Rockets like to use the dribble drive. But they aren't crisp enough with the kick and swing to get wide-open shots like they should be getting.
     
  7. Deckard

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    We need a money shooter from Downtown in the worst way. Brooks is the only cat on the team shooting 3's at a 40% or better clip, and he's, what, 5'10" and gets 18 minutes a night? I certainly could see Morey being interested in a player like Dunleavy, who's averaged 40% or better the last 4 seasons from behind the arc, and is tall enough at 6'9" to shoot over defenders closing out on him on the perimeter..
     
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    The reason the 3's are contested is we are essentially playing the Twin Towers lineup with a smaller Terrence Jones for 30 minutes a game instead of playing Twin Towers for around 12 minutes a game and then spreading the floor with shooters the rest of the time.

    Terrence Jones cannot shoot the basketball outside the low blocks. Below is what his shot chart looks like.

    Last year, we started the season with Marcus Morris (a shooter) at the 4 spot. We also had Patrick Patterson (another shooter) at the 4 spot playing major minutes. And then we would bring in Carlos Delfino at the 4 behind those guys (another shooter). All of those guys had the ability and confidence to catch and fire the ball. That threat and spread of the floor caused defenses to have to fly out at shooters, which led to secondary dribble drives with other defenders having to collapse after the up fake and drive, leaving the other shooters WIDE OPEN for GREAT LOOKS!

    That is not happening anymore. And the reason is OBVIOUS. Jones is simply not a threat from the perimeter. We are playing Twin Towers for 30 minutes a game now.....after everybody threw a fit at us playing it for 10-12 minutes a game with a better defender and rebounder than Jones (Asik). Now we are playing the same style lineup only with a guy that can't defend or rebound anywhere close to Omer and can't shoot any better from the perimeter than Omer.


    http://vorped.com/bball/index.php/p...Terrence-Jones/season/2013-2014-REG?ui=zone32




    We should have Casspi starting at the 4 alongside Lin, Harden, Parsons, Dwight....and then we've got to find another big that can defend for the 15 minutes or so that Dwight goes to the bench. If you want to see our shooting percentages spike up to the clouds this has to be done. Otherwise we are going to continue to stumble with our perimeter shooting. Jones simply doesn't create space. He convolutes the floor, jams up the paint and makes it difficult for our perimeter shooters to get any space.
     
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    Garcia and Casspi made all of their shots in the preseason...now not so much
     
  10. ILoveWhiteGirls

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    What happened to this guy?

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  11. Haymitch

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    Agreed with Deckard.

    I think the big improvement needs to come from our bench. Harden's percentage will get better, Parsons is good, and Bev is... eh. A starting quality stretch 4 would be nice, because TJones will never be a consistent long range shooter with that release of his, but that seems unrealistic at this point.

    But I would like to see a bench with Lin and some shooters. He'd be far more effective if he could dish out to someone like Green, Webster, Frye, Foye, Neal, Dunleavy, Tolliver, or some other bench player who can shoot. Those guys probably aren't attainable (or desirable when you factor in their salaries), but it sure would be nice.
     
  12. sugrlndkid

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    Lets recap...the Rockets are one of the most efficient scoring teams in the league despite being one of the worst in the league shooting from distance. This is, as others have mentioned, a clear indication of why the Rockets offensive philosophy works. The Rockets have limited the focus of their attack at the rim and from long distance. Another reason for the Rockets success lies at the fact that we have guys that are leaders in FT attempts and makes. Once the Rockets find their distance from range, I fully expect the Rockets to blow teams out. Garcia is mightly struggling, Caspi is scared to shoot, Lin has revert to average long distance shooting, and Harden and AB are just now getting their long distance rhythm...come March April, I truly expect this team to start scoring at prolific rates again.
     
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    Anyone know Ryan Anderson's status? Did he have surgery? Might be a good time to "buy low."
     
  14. Rockets12

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    Garcia and Casspi are shooting quite low at 33.6% and 34.3% (that's decent but not great). It doesn't help that Lin cooled off since his great shooting performanance vs Phi (25.5% since) and Harden is shooting a career low 32.7% from the 3. Parsons and Brooks are the only ones with a 3Point percentage higher than 36% and Parsons is out with an injury right now.
     
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    Our gimmick offense is not a major problem for now.

    We are not going anywhere with our defense. For years, D'Antoni's Sun shots around 40% and had one of the top offense of all time and never reached Finals. Historical stats are stacked against this team.

    We are not going anywhere with our defense, despite of having the best center who'd won multiple DPOY's.

    Magic, without any other defensive specialists beside Dwight, remained on top of defensive ranking for years. Something is seriously wrong with our defensive schemes.
     
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    Video didn't show for me, but that guy is out for the year. There's no saying he would have been injured had he been with the Rockets though.
     
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    Casspi is a 35% career shooter (34% this year)
    Garcia is a 36% career shooter (34% this year)

    These 2 aren't really slumping they just aren't great shooters. This team needs to add a stretch 4 and a wing sniper. People are sagging of Jones badly now.

    Our overall offenive rating is 5th which looks good, but it was 1st earlier and has been steadily coming down. All the missed 3's are not only hurting our offense, but they are leading to tranistion offense for the opponent.

    We need shooters, badly.
     
  18. Rocket_Man_2.0

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    Trade Asik for Ryan Anderson. Trade J.Lin for Kyle Korver!!:eek:
     
  19. Voice of Aus

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    You could mount the argument that they are slumping as playing on a team that has 2 people who get major attention (harden and dwight) should allow them to have the most open looks of their career
     
  20. basketballholic

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    Francisco Garcia is 32 years old and shot almost 39% from 3 for us last year.

    do.you.really.think.he's.lost.it?

    Let's be real folks. It's not Garcia that's the problem. The problem is Morris, Patterson, and Delfino are all gone and in their stead Jones is getting 30 minutes a night. This problem started last year after we traded away the top 2 guys (Morris/Patterson) and we started playing musical chairs at the 4 spot with Greg Smith, Terrence Jones, and Donuts.

    Garcia is not a different player nor a different shooter than last year. Same shooter, same player. The difference is the shots are being contested more. Think fellas. Why is that?
     
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