The nicest thing I will say about the Warriors - they NAILED the 09-13 drafts

Wow...just wow. I'm in fact not a kid or "someone who doesn't really follow basketball". Your completely wrong on both counts. The fact you can't simply disagree without resorting to name calling and insults is FAR more in line with the way a kid would post. That's really poor form from a long time poster - you should be ashamed. I'm trying to bring something of value in my posts - don't come at me like that.

....so let me try and explain my point that obviously offended you so much. When I said they "nailed" the drafts, I was using something called HYPERBOLE. Look it up.

No, they didn't make the correct pick(in hindsight) for every single draft pick but NO ONE does. Given the odds you take drafting outside of the top 5, they did do exceptionally well for a team over a 5 draft year sample. Yes, they missed with Udoh(which I stated in my original post) but I don't think any of those guys drafted after him make them a championship contender 5 years later except Paul George. Aminu & Monroe are backup role players and Hayward is the classic "guy stuffing the stat line in meaningless games on a bottom rung team." Yes they are way better than Udoh, but that's more a commentary on how bad Udoh is than how good those other guys are. BTW, they drafted him as a raw freakishly long athletic project they thought they could mold into a defensive 4/5 - it was an upside pick and it simply didn't work out. I can't blame them for swinging for the fences here given they were a middling team at the time.

 

Solid point.

 

I think they will be contenders for the next 2-3 years but I don't think the 67 win team will ever return. Their season was an outlier among a number of outlier performances individually for the season and of course an uncharacteristically injury free season. All signs point to some regression by some of their players, more injury problems, losing a few of those 50/50 games, and not being so fortunate to have all their legit contenders suffering through injuries every time they played each other. In short Golden State caught just about every break they could. They are still a good team, but I would be shocked if they had more than 60 wins next season.

 

Why are you surprised that I'm admitting to hyperbole? I thought it was super obvious that I wasn't implying GS hit every single pick. If your unable(or unwilling) to understand hyperbole or know the difference between a child's post and a thinking man's post, then there really is nothing more I can say about this. Your the one who first tried to insult me(and continue to) because I don't share the same opinion as you or maybe because you don't like caps(?). I'm perfectly capable of having a reasonable debate about this but I'm(actually no one would) not going to take kindly to someone who immediately starts insulting my intelligence. By the way, who died and put you in charge of deciding when hyperbole is welcomed in a thread title? I don't think your qualified to decide that for the good people in this forum.

....so.

Greg Monroe plays for the Pistons who are not a very good team and this year they started playing around with him coming off the bench...on a bad team. He's a relatively one dimensional player - he scores and rebounds a little but most of the rest of his game is soft. 3 years ago people were saying "he's going to be really good" because he had a lot of potential then but he hasn't developed at all since then and in some ways he has even regressed. SVG has been shopping him for a while without much luck. He's not the PF of a title contending team or as I like to say, "he doesn't move the needle".

Aminu is on his 3rd team in his short career and was nearly written off by everyone until the Houston series when he looked like a legit player for his defense on Harden and his solid offensive play. That being said, there is nothing about his career before the last 3 Houston games that would suggest he is capable of sustaining that. I have seen a lot of games where Aminu could have played, but few that he did play and even fewer still that he played well in.

Hayward is the best of the 3, but again he isn't a game changer despite the fact he is a max contract player (SLC has to overpay people to keep them there - sad but true). He struggles in the role of a go to scorer and is relatively slow for a wing player. He's a crafty offensive player for sure and makes decent reads but he relies on his jump shot too much(he's an inconsistent shooter) and is a poor finisher at the rim. In short he's an average NBA level scorer but I don't think GS was looking for NBA scorer to draft when they had Steph and Monte on the roster(back in their take turns running the iso days).

Barnes before Drummond makes sense when you remember that they had just acquired Bogut and thought he would be their defensive anchor and meanwhile they had Dorrell Wright and Brandon Rush playing the 3 - two guys they were eager to replace with someone better.

You removed all context in your argument and just assume because GS took player B instead of player A, that they were making glaring mistakes. The fact is if you watched a lot of NBA basketball you would know that context is very important to understanding draft choices. You never once mentioned what the roster looked like while they were drafting. Drummond is a really good player - a franchise center even, but I think GS made the right decision going with Bogut and filling that whole at the SF instead. After all, they are probably a few games away from winning an NBA title and Bogut is a big part of that.

You remind me of the quote: "Don't argue with idiots, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience".

 

This.