There are no 4, no 5, no any other spots in the modern game. We have 6'11 PG without 3pt shooting in Giannis and 6'7 center with 38% 3pt shooting percentage in Draymond. Classic position are dead, it's all about bringing production to the table. 73-9 team had no point guard in starting lineup, a championship team that beat them had no center and no point guard
Yeah, but those two are very versatile players, they can do a lot of things on both sides of the court, that's why they're basically without a specific role, Faried is a different story though, he can't shoot, he can't pass and he can't protect the paint, that's why you're forced to give him a specific role (the 4), and in today's nba he's just not a great fit, as a starter at least. I'd be ok with him coming off the bench, but in the starting lineup eh..not really.
I get what your trying to point out, but faried is just not that kind of player in terms of value. If he was the nuggets would not be trying to trade him and other teams would be offering a lot more for him. You can't compare him to a jack of all trades player in giannis and green. In all honestly Faried prob would be fantastic playing with harden because he was very good in that role playing with Ty Lawson. But you can't compare Ryan Anderson to Faried it's just not fair because Anderson does things that Faried just can't and it goes a lot further than just individual numbers or defense And to be clear Faried is not very good at defense either. Anderson spaces the floor for James to operate. He makes sure that when we start the offense before Capela or nene come and set the pick for harden that there is only one defender in near the basket. This is so huge for our offense and makes James that much more dangerous. We thought harden was good 2 years ago. With this new spacing he's going to make us forget all about his runner up MVP year. Would Faried be good on offense playing the 5? I think that's a very resounding yes but defensively we would be much worse off and his pick and roll does not off set what we lose in rim protection and positional defense from Capela and nene. And then if you sub Anderson out for Faried we are right back we're we have been the last few years. Would he be a little better? No doubt but it's not even a fraction of the impact Anderson has on the offense just by being able to space the court and hit open threes. 7/13 the other night says it all. When is the last time we had a guy hit 7 threes in a game besides James? Anderson did it in his 2nd games ever playing off harden.
Your interest in Faried is one year too late. He would have done wonders on last year's squad full of airheads, softies and crybabies. His do-it-all workhorse and high energy/motor mentality is a dose of what last year's dead hooker of a basketball team sorely needed. He knows the only way he's getting touches is if he grabs the offensive rebound or creates the opportunity for himself (i.e. transition, cut to the basket, etc). Hard work; never takes a play off. That simple. This year, though? With a new coach, new system and a starting PF already in place - I'm not convinced he'll be worth the high asking price Denver will rightfully command for him. I'll punt on this idea for now.
Like some others, I'm more concerned with why Denver is so anxious to part ways with him, for at least a couple of seasons now. Is he that bad in the locker room?
Yeah, some reports about him acting like he's some sort of superstar, things like that...i think malakas already said this few pages ago. Btw he's on the market from at least two years now, and nobody has traded for him, that's should tell us something. It may be true that the Nuggets are used to ask a lot in trade scenarios, but at this point seems also true that Faried's market value is pretty low so, i'm not really sure they're really asking that much, more like nobody really wants him as their starting 4. And if they're still asking a good package for him, looks like nobody is willing to trade good pieces for him anyway.
Anderson wasn't signed because of his bad defence. He was signed IN SPITE of it. Because of his other skills. Faried can't do any of that so what you want for a no spacing big is first and foremost good D. Whether that's a combo big, pf or C. In his case if you put him at C things get even worse because he doesn't understand team defence and doesn't know how to guard the PNR. Furthermore positions still exist in the sense : you are what you can defend. Draymond can defend the C in small lineups in the modern NBA and that's why he's a "C". Giannis can't defend the 1 so he's not a point guard but he's a primary ballhandler and playmaker. Some people call this a pointguard which is wrong same as was wrong to call Magic Johnson a pointguard. Pointforwards even when they are the primary ballhandlers still absolutely need a small guard to defend small players. Faried can hardly even defend most PFs let alone C. It would be a straight up disaster to have him defend Cs and protect the rim. The biggest reason is Jokic. It's not that his locker room issues are like the Morris' to require him to be traded. But when you have such a franchise talent who will need minutes and someone like Faried who at best is average but well paid and doesn't accept coming off the bench it's best to get him traded if you can get something good back. Anyway the Nuggets are a team that goes in two ways. Great young talent, quality veterans whose timeline though doesn't work with the youngsters. Sooner or later they will have either to fully commit in the rebuilding or choose to consolidate assets to bring in a big name as their owner really wants.
They want him. For example Toronto was interested. But good luck having a trade work with Toronto and Denver. Nobody is prepared to lower their price. Also right now almost every team is full in bigs. Very few teams need pfs. It's the fullest position in the league.
Better be. I swear if they dump nunnally or trade house just to create a roster spot because they won’t dump Melo for luxury tax reasons I will go in a @heypartner rigteous crusade
