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[The Independent] People with extreme political views ‘cannot tell when they are wrong’, study finds

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  1. Os Trigonum

    Os Trigonum Contributing Member
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    well that explains a lot

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...university-college-london-study-a8687186.html

     
  2. WNBA

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    pretty obvious after seeing Trump and his followers.
     
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    That does explain quite a bit about some of our friends here who lean towards the extremes.
     
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    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    One conclusion they drew from their study, published in the journal Current Biology, was that the failure of metacognition held true across the political spectrum.

    They said this suggested radicalism was based on a way of thinking that “transcends political inclinations”.
     
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    How many times have you admitted you were wrong here?
     
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    How good are they at connecting the dots?
     
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    A few, but it's fairly rare for me to be proven wrong. For the most part I either take nuanced positions or use qualifiers in order to avoid being wrong but obviously it still happens every now and again. What happens more often than not around here is that some kind of straw man gets beat up and people take that to mean that positions were disproven when that never actually happened.
     
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    One conclusion they drew from their study, published in the journal Current Biology, was that the failure of metacognition held true across the political spectrum.[/quote]Across the political spectrum - do you hold a polical view?

    Are Dems immune to this phenomenon? Greens? Independents?
    Trivializing "radicalism" is an extreme measure in itself.
     
  9. Rashmon

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    Thank god everyone here identifies as a moderate.
     
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    Um no, constantly changing the subject or moving the goalposts is not a nuanced position or using qualifiers, especially when its done as a reaction to someone pushing back on a point. Its called bad debate, of which you are a master. At least no one will ever call you a master debater, so you have that going for you.
     
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    Its posts like this that bring me back.

    I would guess that if you looked at this article and thought that it proved that the other side is wrong, its really about you. If you looked at the article, actually read it, and agreed that it was that way on both sides you can qualify yourself as a moderate.
     
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    I don't know, they sound awfully confident in their position. Maybe too confident.
     
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    BTW, the author note on what is metacognition ("the term for a person’s ability to recognise when they are wrong"), does not give it justice.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metacognition

    Metacognition is "cognition about cognition", "thinking about thinking", "knowing about knowing", becoming "aware of one's awareness" and higher-order thinking skills. ​


    Yea, I would said the failure of metacognition is not related to political lending and is WIDEspread.
     
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    I wonder what role the increase in digital media and technology in our lives has lead us to this point. Thinking about thinking requires a lot of self-reflection and that's hard to do when the next level of candy crush needs to be won, or there is a new youtube video about cats.

    Its easier than ever to find people that have posted or post information that you agree with. This creates a bubble where you don't have to listen to the other side an find the merits of their argument. Rather you can spout some talking point on a message board and tell yourself you won the argument because the other side didn't do a good enough job of convincing you that your thought process may be flawed.

    Because its everyone else's job to prove to you that you are wrong, you know you are right.
     
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    Across the political spectrum - do you hold a polical view?

    Are Dems immune to this phenomenon? Greens? Independents?
    Trivializing "radicalism" is an extreme measure in itself.[/QUOTE]

    It is easy to identify extremes on any spectrum.

    Are lock-her-up people extremes? I counted how many convictions issued, how many bombs mailed and how many Jews killed. ..........hmmm , very extreme to me.

    Are Dems extremes? I don't see it much. If they are, plz provide facts, numbers to prove it.
     
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    Dems are totally crazy extreme. They want health care over perpetual war, education funding over tax scams, and an equitable criminal justice system over racist, gung ho police departments. CRAZY!
     
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    @larsv8 told me that the Republican Party was a terrorist organization that must be purged from the country. I don't know that I'd say he has low meta-cognition, but I thought that was a bit extreme. lars, not picking a fight, but that's just the most recent example of extreme views from a liberal here that I can recall. To take another example, @JuanValdez wants to take your guns away and abolish the Second Amendment (I have the posts to prove it if he wants to deny). He, like perhaps the extremists in this study, can feel comfortable in the rightness of his extreme position because of the unlikeliness that events will ever unfold to explicitly prove him wrong.
     
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    Confirmed ^

    Although I am a moderate, not a Democrat. And my perception of Republicans has nothing to do with thier political views. Frankly I couldn't even tell you what they stand for anymore.
     
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    People with extreme political views ‘cannot tell when they are wrong’, study finds

     
  20. DaDakota

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    Hah, I have done that multiple times....

    :)
    DD
     

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