TEXANS TRADE BROCK OSWEILER TO CLEVELAND BROWNS

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  1. Bobbythegreat

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    The problem will be is if Osweiler plays better in Cleveland than he did here you have to start asking if BOB is making QB's look worse than they are. I mean, if so, I want BOB gone before he ruins Watson.
     
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  2. Newlin

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    Did Osweiler play better in Denver than he did in Houston?
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    Yeah, he did. Denver doesn't make the playoffs that season without Osweiler. He wasn't great or anything, but he was a hell of a lot better than he was here.
     
  4. Mr. Clutch

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    Play in Denver- gets $37 mil guaranteed
    Play in Houston- gets traded WITH a second round pick
     
  5. Blake

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    Dunno. Fitz had one good season after BOB and then went to crap
    Mallett wasn't anything special in his two starts after he left us
    Keenum didn't look any better after he left and neither did Hoyer

    While I don't think BOB is anything near a QB Guru, I doubt he is making them worse.
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    Fitz had his best season ever after leaving, Mallett was good enough to get another contract which probably surprised many after his performance here, Keenum went on to start 14 games, but he never had to struggle through BOB so he doesn't count, Hoyer went on to look better in Chicago than he did here and he earned himself another contract.

    As to BOB, this season will tell the tale on him. The offense has done nothing but get worse every season since he arrived, they either improve this season, or he needs to be gone because offense is all he brings to a team anyway.
     
  7. Blake

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    Like I said, outside of one season of Fitzgerald before he reverted back to his normal play, none of those guys really played any better when they left. Coaching an in his prime Brady doesn't earn you the BS guru status he was given but I don't think BOB is the problem. It's a lack of quality qb's on our roster. Bob wasn't the reason why Brock couldn't complete passes to open receivers.
     
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  8. red5rocket

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    I agree with this and what @Bobbythegreat is saying. BOB didn't make any qb better but every qb he had was already who they were. How Watson improves could really determine whether he's a good qb coach or not being that Watson is a fresh mind.
     
  9. J.R.

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    'Osweiler takes a veiled shot at the Texans'

    The bad blood lingers between Brock Osweiler and the Texans. And while the bad blood isn’t currently boiling (again), it’s definitely there.

    Consider these quotes from Osweiler, and the reasonable interpretation of them.

    “The best part is I’m getting coached hard on my fundamentals,” Osweiler said regarding his latest new team, via Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal. “And I believe firmly that when your fundamentals and your feet are right as a quarterback, you’re going to make great decisions and you’re going to throw accurate footballs.

    “I think that’s something that slid last season. I’m not going to go into great detail on that, but they did. My fundamentals slid, and because of that, you saw some poor decisions and some poor throws. If you go back to 2015, I feel like my fundamentals were pretty tight.”

    In other words, Osweiler believes he wasn’t properly coached on his fundamentals last year. Which means he believes he wasn’t properly coached by Bill O’Brien and his staff.

    Of course, the notion that Osweiler’s fundamentals slid last year doesn’t necessarily mesh with the passionate case he made last month to be the starter in Cleveland: “I think the proof is in the film from the past two years.”

    But Osweiler on Wednesday wasn’t trying to pump himself up. He was hoping to take a not-so-subtle shot. And for anyone who may not have otherwise noticed it, the phrase “I’m not going to go into great detail on that” was the magic marker with which Osweiler hoped we’d all connect the dots.
     
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    I am fascinated by the idea that foot placement impacts decision making. Must learn more.
     
  12. JeffB

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    Not sure if serious, but footwork is key to the West Coast Offense.

    From Steve Young:
    Because I played for Sid, I knew footwork was important when I got to San Francisco in 1987. I had gone to the best place to perfect it. Bill was essentially preaching the same things as Sid, knowing by my footwork when to throw the ball.

    I remember Bill yelling at me, "Steve, no one knows where you are going to be. You've got to lock this stuff in so you can make reads, give the ball to people on time and make decisions about where to throw the football based on your feet."

    http://static.espn.go.com/nfl/s/westcoast/popularity.html
     
  13. FLASH21

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    [​IMG]It's in the tape....
     
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    I think it's telling when the smartest man in the NFL (Fitzpatrick) says that he learned more under O'Brien than his entire pro career to that point. And him having his best year the next year isn't an argument against BOB's coaching. It could just mean he is applying and building on what he learned. Or that he just took it to a team with a better o-line and receiving core.
     
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    There is so much win in this gif.
     
  16. DonkeyMagic

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    I get that footwork can put you in a good mechanical place to throw the ball and you need good footwork to be efficient, but it does not help ones brain analyze what's going on in front of him.

    No amount of footwork will help brock make good decisions with the ball
     
  17. Mr. Clutch

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    He was also benched for Mallet and gone after one year.

    He was also horrible last year.
     
  18. texian

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    The foot-bone's connected to the brain-bone...?
     
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    Honestly, I am beginning to get a kick out of the stuff Brock says now that he is off our team. He amuses me more than some stand up comics, because he is either completely unaware of the real truth, is the best smooth talking snake oil salesman around, or really believes all those bad decisions and interceptions might have been eliminated if the coaches in Houston had spent more time teaching him basic fundamentals. It's amazing how all those years as a backup didn't give him the foundation of basic football fundamentals. I can't wait to hear what comes out of his mouth next. It's nice to be able to laugh about it now, instead of shaking my head in pure disgust.
     
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