Steve takes to many shots

he averages around 14 attemps per game!! how much do you want him to shoot??? Under 10. Yao had a bad shooting day also.

 

Francis SHOULD shoot when he is open...but he needs to become a better shooter.

I think we may have overestimated his shooting.....Since Ming now clogs the lane this is a true indicator of his shooting...and it stinks.

DD

 

It doesnt stink, its all confidence. If you dont notice , but i do, whenever he shoots, he hesitates, thinking weather to pass or not. You also cant judge people from one season. I remember half way through last season he was shooting 44% from the 3 line. Plus he doesnt get 20+ pts just from driving in.

 

Steve Francis takes the right amount of shots, but he doesn't take good shots. On the rare occasion when he does, he misses. I find it hard to believe that he's been practicing his shooting.

How could a professional shoot so poorly? I just can't believe it...

 

Far,

Yes it is confidence, and before when he was struggling he could just drive to the whole and flush it...now....Ming is planted there.

Francis and Ming dont fit.

DD

 

Yao should be shooting as much as anybody on this team for them to win ANY GAME!! Why can't they understand that. What the hell is JVG thinking. Design some creative freaking plays to get him the ball more. It's frustrating to see your most dominate player on the team not getting the most shots out of everyone.

Tell me how much Rox win if Yao is taking as much shot if not more than anyone else on this team? I bet you they're winning a high percentage if Yao is taking as much shots as anyone else on this team. IF JVG's answer is that it depends on game situation and that Yao taking the amount of shots depend on game situation, then he's totally wrong. There is no reason to ignore Yao and no reason for them not to get as much shot as anybody else on this team. Remember it ISN'T about how difficult it is to try to get the ball into Yao, it's about willingness of the players to feed him the ball and about creative plays that free Yao up and about practicing to perfect those passes in practice. So don't be telling me they're having trouble getting the ball into Yao because defenders are all over him, that is the wrong assumption. Oneal always get as much shot as Kobe, why can't Yao get the same chances.

 

When some shooters shoot, you expect that shot to go in most of the time. I've never felt that with Francis. Even when wide open.

 

I used to feel like that, in seasons past. But this season, I always think Francis is going to miss.

It shouldn't be a pleasant surprise when your star makes a shot.

 

Rockets lose = Steve's fault everytime, ya'll are starting to make it a joke on the threads that pop up after every lost.

I'm not defending Steve, I'm just trying to make a point that we lost because the TEAM played like crap. Try to highlight a single player that played well for the Rockets today.

Yao- 2 boards, are you kidding me?
Cat- bad shooting.
JJ- bad shooting, some bad passes.
SF- look above.
MoT- black hole lives again, and with some costly turnovers.
Cato- actually had a pretty good game.
Pike- missed some open threes.

Do ya'll see a pattern here, quit blaming individuals when we lost because the TEAM played horrible.

 

But Yao's overall % is so much better! I want SF take no more than 10 shots a game, while Yao take at least 15 shots a game.

I am really frightened when SF has a decent game, such as the one against Portland, because SF usually follow that with a bunch of extremly poor performances.

I rather have SF have so so games for the rest of the season. That will make him realized he is somewhere between a role player and a star. Just do what he can, and don't try to be the man. Because He is NOT.

 

Win or loss, SF sucks this season. When we won, the rest of the team bailed him out, and we didn't bother to bash him. SF is the most consistent under achiever on this team!

 

ZRB...

It's pretty incredible how MUCH a whole tenth of a percentage makes while you are watching the game. I mean, 50% vs .40% doesn't seem like much. But I'm starting to think that it's very deceptive in regards to Francis. Since we're talking "averages," it makes you wonder what SPAN (FG%) a particular player has from game to game?

Gary Payton is shooting .47FG% for the year. But his games seem to have a CONSISTENT pattern that hovers around .47FG%(January Game Log for Payton):
1) 44FG%
2) 68FG% <---excellent average +
3) 53FG%
4) 50FG%
5) 38FG%
6) 36FG%
7) 53FG%
8) 69FG% <---excellent average +
9) 22FG% <---very bad average -
10) 44FG%
11) 53FG%
12) 50FG%
13) 29FG% <---very bad average -
14) 45FG%

It's almost like Payton hovers pretty close to 47FG% for most of his games, give or take about a few % points. And rarely will he have a bad game like 22FG%. But he does have some great game like 69FG%, sometimes.

Francis is shooting 39FG% this year. His SPAN average is very wide...he's inconsistent even in hovering around .39FG%....(January game log for Francis):

1) 69FG% <---outstanding average +
2) 17FG% <---very bad average -
3) 22FG% <---very bad average -
4) 27FG% <---very bad average -
5) 46FG%
6) 28FG% <---very bad average -
7) 47FG%
8) 46FG%
9) 36FG%
10) 59FG% <---outstanding average +
11) 41FG%
12) 50FG%
13) 37FG%
14) 9FG% <---very bad average -
15) 58FG%

He's all over the place. Hot and cold, and sometimes in-between. But no consistency even in regards to his .39FG%. His average SPAN is very wide. This is not good if you are trying to maintain a particular shooting average.

Also, I've noticed that an "excellent game" for Payton would be 68FG%. But an excellent game for Francis would be 47FG%. 69FG% and 58FG% for Francis is outstanding. But happens so rarely, why bother noticing?

Good shooters seem to shoot +/- .05 in comparison to their average. For every .25FG% game, they supliment that with two 69FG% games. Still hovering around their main average.
Bad shooters seems to shoot +/- .10 in comparison to their average. For every .59FG% game, they supliment that with two .25FG% games. There's not much "hovering" around their main average going on.

I guess the easy way to look at it is this:

If Player A shoots 50FG% for the year. He'll have a lot of games between 45% and 55%. <---narrow average
If Player B shoots 40FG% for the year. He'll have a lot of games between 30% and 50%. <---wide average

That's a HUGE SPAN for the bad shooter.

I'm sure some of you master statisticians can figure this out more accurately.

 

Are you freaking serious, Steve takes too many shots? Steve needs to take more shots just the right kind of shots. Steve is not Kenny Smith or Matt Maloney therefore he can't stand out there behind the Line and be a shooter. He has to penetrate and dish but since Yao clogs the middle he can't and has to settle for an off the dribble jumper. In my opinon Yao is taking too many bad shots as well. Yao and Mo Taylor need to learn how to read a double team and find the open man.

 

Because he needs to justify why he's the highest paid player.

 

People forget that in years past Francis drove the then open lanes for high-percentage shots; he never was a Reggie Miller from the outside.

 

Solid ...BINGO !!!

The middle is now closed with Yao in there.

I don't think Francis sucks, just think he is wrong for a team where Yao clearly should lead.

I think Francis has to go for the good of the Rockets and Steve as a player.

DD

 

If Steve could not play the rest of the season, (car accident, plane crash, super bowl) I think we'd be better off. Time to move on. MJax is not the answer, either. Make the team share the ball.

 

Thanks pasox2.

I've been debating on whether or not to just avoid this board completly after losses, as I know there will be hundreds of idiotic things said... while very few people have constructive criticism.

But your reply just put it over the top... thanks for making this bbs the WORST place to be following a rockets loss.