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Steph Curry to coach Bud, Harden reportedly wants to play different offense

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by motleydeflep6, Feb 16, 2019.

  1. Denovo

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    Two of these teams can’t make it out the first round and the 3rd has been a perennial sweep. Do you really want to be built like them? Lol.
     
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    seclusion rip chadwick

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    Ding. That boy is playing mind games.
     
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  3. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    This is precisely why the FLOATER SHOT needs to become a staple. Get off a shot without contact that has a chance to go in. Versus continuing to drive, get hammered (with no whistle) and attempting a much more difficult shot.

    Harden needs to shoot multiple floaters a game just like the step back. And then the FTAs can be "value add" options. If they refs are swallowing the whistle....who cares, the floater is weaponized.

    1) Crossover drive to the basket
    Counter
    2) Step back 3
    Or Counter
    3) Floater shot.
    Or Counter
    4) pass to the C in the dunker spot
    Or Counter
    5) pass to the corner 3 for a shot.
     
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  4. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    It is a simple statement. But to be brutally honest this is the point during this Harden streak. Harden is taking more shots because he is the best scorer to take them versus the inconsistency of the other players. Doing what needs to be done to get W's. It is not a formulate for a championship but it is a formula to bail out water from the boat.
     
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    Bynum was an all star that year and Gasol had been an all-star.

    Artest that year would have been the equivalent of a better Gordon and the had Odom coming off the bench.

    That is definitely a lot of help.

    You are the one making stuff up.
     
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  6. biff17

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    no that's not comparable the only guy who would be a starter is Paul.

    everybody else would come of the bench.
     
  7. Reeko

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    thank u...I feel like I’m taking crazy pills

    Kobe easily had 1 of the best rosters to go along with the best coach (or 2nd best depending on how u rank Pop) in the NBA from 08-10 when he won those 2 rings...mockster trying to tell me he won a title with a bunch of “average Joe’s”...

    Huh?
     
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    Curry saying all of this when he knows the cameras are on him. Coincidence? I think not.
     
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  9. biff17

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    True.

    That team had 3 of the top 20 players in the NBA at that time.
     
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    I don't think anyone on the Rockets wants Harden playing heroball. Not Harden, not MDA, not Morey. It's purely a matter of necessity right now and everyone understands that.
     
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    they also had shannon brown, sasha vujiachic, and validmir radmonavic. flat out snipers from 3
     
  12. biff17

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    Yeah some nice bench depth.
     
  13. mockster

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    I said our roster is comparable and you said our roster is trash so I referenced average joes

    Idc what you say the roster is very comparable

    The differences are very minor

    Regardless the main point is rockets roster is by no means trash or bad spec compared to other teams and their are tons of stars that have been doing it on worse for years
     
  14. Mathloom

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    Understanding that it's a necessity at this moment is not the same as understanding why they are in this situation to begin with.

    Nothing unpredictable has happened to the Rockets this season except Capela's injury.

    Edit: I take it back, even Clint's injury is 100% in line with every season he's been in the NBA.
     
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  15. Reeko

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    the rosters being comparable isn’t close to being true, and the differences are a lot more than minor...sorry

    if u want to act like Harden has major help and should be grateful for a roster like this then do u
     
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    Phil Jackson? How many minutes did Phil Jackson play? What were his per stats? I don't recall him making any clutch baskets

    That team was a solid team but no "super" team like any of Lebron's teams or rosters from the 80's/90's. That Lakers team wasn't even the most talented team that year, yet "stacked"?

    Gasol was a solid vet. Bynum was a above average center benefiting from playing w/ Kobe. Same with Metta Artest (he wasn't close to Gordon offensively). They were at best a deep solid roster, but "stacked" implies they had all these elite players which is untrue. Kobe carried that team
     
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    The regression in shooting was not expected
     
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    Those teams where as stacked as any of the era.

    And the fact that you think Artest wasn't close to Gordon offensively shows you have no clue.
     
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    Totally expected. Ryan Anderson and Trevor Ariza were taking a significant number of 3pa during last regular season and while their percentages are often derided, the rate at which they were shooting shows they were definitely underrated. Ariza in particular hit 36.8% of 7 attempts, this is massive. Currently we don't have a player capable of doing this aside from Harden. Everyone has to take half the shots to reach that %. Ryan Anderson at 38% of 5 attempts, we don't even have anyone to match that output.

    Chris Paul and Eric Gordon are 33 and 31, they are likely to stay the same or get worse. Even if they stayed the same, we took a hit.

    Further we put a bunch of poor 3pt shooters in the line up early on, and they just did what they have been doing before getting here. Ennis helped some, but he hurt us more on defense.

    It would have been unreasonable to anticipate Clint so easily becoming 18/12/2. House helped for a short period. Those covered some problem areas. Harden is unsustainably carrying the lion's share at 37.5% of 13.5 attempts. That's insane.

    All of this, and we are not even in trouble for our shooting. We are the 2nd highest rated offense and the 25th defense. Last season we were 1st offense and 5th defense. We would have endured the drop in shooting through Harden and scoring through Capela, but we never replaced Ariza/Moute. Now we have Shumpert, hopefully that helps.
     
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    You just said after blow outs. His stats are not driving how he plays the game normally.
     

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