[Sporting News] For many coaches, overuse of analytics remains 'very, very dangerous'

very intersting. thanks for posting

 

I know who doesn't want stats sheets in lock room. And he is not a coach. :grin:

Spoiler

 

on the new list of rocket killers tbh..

 

These nerds are taking all the fun out of the game.

 

Collins comes off as unintelligent in this article. Does he not really see the difference in a missed open three and a bad two that happens to go in?

 

That's Daryl Morey. Wants to be GM/Coach(but not take responsibility for the coach part).

Good luck getting a new(/good) coach in here. | Calling all YES MEN!

No coach wants a GM telling them(or at the very least influencing them) how to coach, how to play, or who to play.

 

Or just find a coach that doesn't need to be influenced in that way because he already gets it (someone like Brad Stevens)

 

My favorite part was him talking about the "eye test" and the "heart test."

This is the man that signed Kwame Brown and traded for Andrew Bynum within a month.

 

Haha, I saw your tweet about that. He's also the man that praised Fisher's toughness and heart for taking the cheapest of shots on Scola a couple years ago in the playoffs. I'm pretty sure I'd trust someone like Morey or Hinkie when it comes to an eye or heart test over him.

 

I suppose, yes.

I guess you're talking about an "up and comer" (like Stevens). Can't imagine any of the "old school" coaches (that are thrown around on here and everyone else).

 

The old school is coming off as weak here. Of course both approaches need to be considered but numbers are very effective tools. This is the way the world is headed not just basketball. In a hundred years we will have a hundred times more analytics not less. Any point the old school has, is true to a much lesser extend that they think.

 

No, he doesn't. Not surprising that several players are flourishing under Brown that played mediocre to bad under him.

 

The old school is dead, completely and utterly dead. But it's not just about analytics, they're just what's replaced the old school. But the other part, maybe the most important part is the people management, that's what PJ excelled at, that hasn't been replaced, that might even be viewed as more important, and it hasn't changed that much in thousands of years, the whip is just proverbial instead these days.

For example, saying a transcendent offensive player can miss defensive rotations doesn't really hurt the team from an analytics point of view is true, but if you're always dealing with a player being notoriously lazy (e.g. Harden) or notoriously out of position (e.g. Lin's overhelping), the other players can end up getting caught in two minds on whether that person will do what's expected of them, so they stop committing leading to a symphony of errors.

 

It kind of confirms my theory that McHale was hired because he didn't have an established coaching philosophy or system. Guys like JVG and Adelman would not let the analytics to change their long proven systems.

 

Did you not read the article?

"Jeff Van Gundy was coach of the Rockets for a year when Daryl Morey—whom Van Gundy called, “the Godfather of NBA analytics”—was the team’s general manager. Van Gundy said that Morey was adept at balancing numbers against the desire of a coach to run things his own way.

“Morey realized, I think, that there was some art to the job of coaching and it wasn’t just a number-based approach,” Van Gundy said. “But I found the numbers that he presented to make you really self-evaluate"

 

Don't tell it to Pat Riley, bro. He'll put together the Avengers, buy a jet, fly out to your house, bang your mom, then win 9 titles.

 

Pat Riley let a former tape operator and stat freak run his team. I grew up hating the guy, but he's adapted on the fly. He might be old school, but he's not done thinking.

 

JVG gets it

 

I believe analytics are a great thing. I also think Morey should not be trying to coach the team, that's exactly what chased Adelman out.