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So the Astros 2017 title is tainted

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by rockets13champs, Nov 12, 2019.

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  1. Loneyroy7

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    Umm, they made the WS 2 out of the last 3 years...and then just added one of the best players in baseball. Mookie at the top of that line-up makes them ridiculous.
     
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    They've lost the WS two of the last 3 years... and were bounced in the division series last year in embarrassing/collapsing fashion.

    They're going to win a lot of games and be very good... and still not scare anybody, let alone a team that has also made the WS two of the last 3 years.
     
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    Are the Astros gonna be the same team without the cheating? That remains to be seen.
     
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    Last I checked they won a franchise record 107 games without the cheating. Gerrit Cole just chose the absolute worst time to have a bad game. And Verlander still couldn't shake his WS curse.
     
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    So you're one of those that is choosing to believe they stopped cheating before they were caught just...because?

    LOL. Okay.
     
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    Carlos Correa:
     
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    I mean wasn’t 2017 the year where the cheating occurred for the majority of the season and the playoffs?

    I know people like to hammer home the playoff home/road splits for some of our guys, but over the entire season we hit better on the road than at home. I guess you could argue our home numbers would/could/should have been worse than they were without the cheating, but I think the 162 games sample of us performing better on the road lends some credence to the “it didn’t help as much as people want to believe” theory and that were still a damn good team.
     
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    And you are one of those simply believe social media and ignore facts
     
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    Or I'm one of those simply using common sense.
     
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    You mean like in 2019?
     
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    “Oh, yeah, no question,” Suzuki told the Washington Post when asked if the Astros were cheating in the World Series. “We could hear it from their dugout. We heard their whistling. What are you going to do?"
     
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    I just find this whole thing ridiculous and silly.

    Sign stealing has been a part of baseball for the entire history of the game.

    The national media only cares because the beloved New York and Los Angeles markets were "screwed" from winning a title.
     
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    Wouldn’t the same common sense tell you that all the contenders were cheating? Why would the Red Sox stop cheating after they got caught? Or does your version of common sense only apply when you’re trying to troll on the internet?
     
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    1. MLB had reps in the dugout that monitored cheating

    2. Yankee Cole said there was no cheating

    3. MLB report found no evidence of cheating in their report
     
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    common sense would lend you to believe that the astros weren't the only team using sign-stealing tech and that the yankees, redsox, dodgers, and nationals all did their part as well, wouldn't it? and this isn't just an opinion... when you dig deeper, and ignore the narrative based journalism... it's all there for you to see.
     
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    If the Dodgers nor Yankees were the Astros '17 opponents, this story wouldn't receive 25% its coverage.

    I just saw a program's headlined topic go from Aaron Judge's comments, switch topics briefly, then return right back to the same Aaron Judge topic on the screen's headline.
     
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    From what I'm hearing is it's basically what the Astros did in 2017 but instead of the trash cans, Red Sox players were relaying signals through hands/body movement.
     
  20. marks0223

    marks0223 Astros STILL 2017 Champions
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    That would be wonderful news for the Astros if true since Boston went on to win the World Series. Bellinger wanna have a chat with your new teammates from Boston....ya know, the team you lost the 2018 WS to?
     
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