That is so far and I hope it changes but I am just sick of this bullsh#t with all the uncalled fancyness. He turns the ball over soooo much by himself with out anybody doing nothing. He is a gunner and this needs to stop. At this point in his career he is not a clutch player and not a smart player. The guy needs to understand that not every last play has to be a highlight. Last night instead of just laying it up he choose to get superfancy and the result was a miss and Cato spraining his ankle.
You do realize he's a rookie right???? You do realize you could of put this with your other topic, combining the two posts (which state the same basic idea) and saved Clutch the server space, right??
If you are sick of his game than you are not watching the right game. He is the best player we have and finally we have a player that I could honestly say I love watching. He may be a bit to spectacular but I tell you what, he is my favorite player. He has a heart of a champion. Did you see him on the floor at the end of the game. Him and Cat are two players that are the most intense on our team. That is what makes these two players unique and hopefully great.
Thanks Mant, I've been waiting for someone to complain about Stevie...he was the last one left unblemished. Now we have finally b*tched about every player on the team...oops...did anyone slam Thomas yet? Oh well, one left.
Mantronix: It's a learning process. Do you not realize that Steve Francis is the most exciting player we've had in over 15 years? He's not just going to come in and take the league over and not make any mistakes. That is what veterans do. The guy is only 21. Let's give him time for his mistakes and commend his growth and acheivements. [This message has been edited by thacabbage (edited November 27, 1999).]
mantronix, are you saying this just becuz stevie had a bad game ? Cuz before portland, he was clearly our most productive player. Yes, he turns the ball over alot, but so did glenn robinson and scottie pippen. That just comes from handling the ball alot. As far as his fancyness, I just attribute that to his enthusiasm and youth, and i for one would rather watch him then an aveage avery johnson type point guard. The guy is averaging 17 points, 6 assists and 4 boards i think, so he's gettin the job done. No, he's not perfect, but even even garnett had an off-night last week. ------------------ "Don't they get cable in Canada ?" Keith olbermann, after watching hakeem block terry catledge's shot 5 times.
Now... Since we are defending Francis for his "uncalled fancyness" and that "he is a gunner and this needs to stop", then should we defend Kobe Bryant when people say that about him also? ------------------ Live Rocketball. Breathe Rocketball. Die with Rocketball.
Yes, defend Kobe because his mistakes are over-hyped. Having had the opportunity to watch most of the guys games, I still don't see him as "bad" of a player as people try to make him out to be.
Kobe Brynat can kiss my ass. Too much hype for someone a notch below Vince Carter (who gets no run) and others. Back to business: 10 assists and 0 turnovers. Game saving shot and go ahead shot in OT. Toying with anyone who guards him. Unbelieveable pass off the backboard to himself for a bucket. Clutch drive and score in final minutes. Memo to all haters: Kid has game like no one we in Houston have ever seen. He makes his shots in a variety of ways, all of which are entertaining. I won't leave my TV set for one second if Francis is playing, so don't hate on the man for being more gifted than the average baller. We are lucky to have a future all star for the next millenium of the NBA so you better appreciate it, or should we bring back Matt Maloney? ------------------ Look out, The Kid is about to blow up!
amen, primetime, amen.... although i do like kobe. you're right about vince, though. i'd take him over kobe in a heartbeat. talk about the next jordan....
Amen. Amen. I agree with things you said, but I prefer that brat Kobe Bryant to Vince Carter, I doubt Vince has any serious game like Jordan does other than hops and dunks. Kobe nearly outperformed Jordan in that all star game. Going head to head against MJ is more serious than some highlight dunks ya know. [This message has been edited by Finalfantasy (edited December 01, 1999).]
I don't know why people have a problem with Kobe. We had some L/R passes to a Lakers/Sixers game. After the game, some kids who were with us kids were treated exceptionally well by Kobe (and Horry), who hung around for autographs and pictures. One kid had all Sixer-gear including Iverson's shoes. Iverson, with headphones and bodyguards, walked past all without flinching.
I think one of the reasons people don't like Kobe is because he is so damn popular. He hasn't done anything in the NBA to deserve what he gets. You always see him on commercials and on the highlights on ESPN. All the bandwaggoning fans are in love with him. The kids like him because of his dunks. Here in Houston, we have one of the greatest players of all time, yet some kids don't even know who he is. I think it's not really Kobe's fault. He is a nice guy and he cares about winning. Sometimes he tries to do too much, but you can't take anything away from his desire to win that championship. ------------------ Francis+Charles+Dream-Pippen= Rockets 2000 NBA Champions
Exactly, Ace. Kobe is a great person and a great player. He was just annointed by the NBA marketing gurus before he did anything woth noting. I think the NBA ad machine is as much to blame for ignoring Hakeem as the national media.
I don't like kobe for Various Reasons. He is just annoying to me. . . . I don't think he is as good as Vince [I think Odom will be closer to the real deal than Kobe] Kobe is trying to be the Star While I say Jordon Trying to Win. Plus I Must admit .. . the way he Treated the Draft [ALA Francis] Left a Sour Taste in my mouth . . Kobe = Pippen Vince/Steve/Odom = Jordon How many Years Kobe been in the league? Still making Rookie Mistakes? [D*mn the he young sh*t . . If you take the Job Do the Job. . . If 3 yrs from now Steve still making rookie Mistakes. . . I'll be yakking about him too.] Rocket River Just not a Kobe Fan . . .
Funny, people were saying the same stuff about Jordan before he won his first title. Kobe wants to be a star (like MJ, who had to be convinced by Phil to share the ball more) but he always wants to win, no matter what.
I can't believe anyone would complain about Stevie Francis! He is our franchise player, and he is clutch and guts! Sometimes he dribbles a little too much but he is a rookie. He also has made great strides in his game in this short season. Criticizing Steve Francis serves no purpose - you have to go with your best player. I would take Vince Carter over Kobe Bryant. Don't really know why.