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Should we bring Hakeem home?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Possum, Aug 22, 2002.

  1. Possum

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    Its been reported that the Raptors are shopping Hakeem. Should the Rockets contact him and see if he would be agreeable to coming home in a reduced role to help Ming get acclimated to the NBA. If Hakeem came back with the understanding that he is here to help Ming and finish out his career as a Rocket, not to be a focal point of the team. What better tutor could we ask to have for Ming?

    Houston trades: C Kelvin Cato (6.6 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 0.4 apg in 25.5 minutes)
    Houston receives: C Hakeem Olajuwon (7.1 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 22.6 minutes)
    PF Michael Bradley (1.1 ppg, 0.9 rpg, 0.1 apg in 4.5 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: +1.6 ppg, -0.1 rpg, and +0.8 apg.

    Toronto trades: C Hakeem Olajuwon (7.1 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 22.6 minutes)
    PF Michael Bradley (1.1 ppg, 0.9 rpg, 0.1 apg in 4.5 minutes)
    Toronto receives: C Kelvin Cato (6.6 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 0.4 apg in 75 games)
    Change in team outlook: -1.6 ppg, +0.1 rpg, and -0.8 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED


    I know we don't need another PF but we could allways trade him and someone else for a good backup 2.
     
  2. A-Train

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    Hasn't it already been established that Hakeem doesn't do the mentor or tutoring thing?

    I thought I would never say this, but right now The Rockets are better off with Kelvin Cato than Hakeem
     
  3. Possum

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    Maybe after the dose of reality he received in Toronto his perspective has changed. Probably not but isn’t it worth a simple phone call to find out? I really think the Rockets would be foolish not to look into this.
     
  4. A-Train

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    It's simple, Hakeem is NOT coming back. That's it. It's over...

    finished
    done
    finito
    hasta la vista, baby

    It seems so hard for some people to come to the fact that Hakeem will NOT play another game in a Rockets uniform. He burned too many bridges with the Rockets to ever want to come back here. Let it go...

    He is not in the Rockets future plans. We don't need him for the sacred "veteran leadership", because that's one reason we got Glen Rice. He would not be an upgrade over either Cato or Ming. He would just be another injury prone veteran taking valuable minutes away from our center of the future, ocassionally coming in for a few sympathy minutes, where he might get an ocassional "Wow, a <i>vintage</i> move by Hakeem!" comment from Bill Worrell. Let's face it, people..."vintage" is going on about five years ago and counting. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but it's the truth.

    Just let him retire with what dignity he has left, and he'll get his jersey raised to the rafters of the new arena, where it belongs
     
  5. BrianKagy

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    Possum, c'mon. Why would Toronto want Cato's contract?

    Now, having said that:

    A-Train, I will bet you a steak dinner Hakeem finishes his career as a Rocket. Totally serious on this one. I think when Hakeem's ready to retire, Houston will "reacquire" him (a la Randall Cunningham in Philadelphia) so he can retire a Rocket.

    Just a gut feeling.
     
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    Hakeem should just retired. he is aging and weaken.. :D
     
  7. Rocket River

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    Because Keon Clark Baled and Davis is a better PF than C

    Rocket River
     
  8. A-Train

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    Yo BK, you gonna pay for my trip to Austin when I win that free steak, or are you driving down to H-Town? ;)

    J/K...I know in a second I would lose if I actually bet something...
     
  9. ROXTXIA

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    Hakeem has two years left on his contract. He's fed up in Toronto (same old story). For BK to win his bet, we'd have to trade for the ole boy; I'd yield Mo Taylor; Antonio Davis played better at the 5 in the East.
     
  10. ZRB

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    Why is everyone so against Hakeem coming back to Houston? What would be the harm in occasionally bringing him off the bench? I'd just like to see him finish his career as a Rocket. Who cares if he only puts up five points and five boards? He belongs on the Houston Rockets roster, and no other.
     
  11. montgo

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    yes to exploring it....Kelvin would be a good fit up there too. I am certain they would explore it.

    Hakeem back here would be a good thing. But, I am not too sure hakeem wants a reduced role and can handle the changes down here.

    We should explore it though...
     
  12. hardeji

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    I never again want to see him in a Rockets uniform.

    He devistated our team by convincing Rudy to stand pat, and not going after available talent. It was probably Hakeem that told Rudy to draft Drew and those other worthless souls.

    I can hear him whispering... "Ludy, you need pick guards. I am center. All good team built alound center. I am best center. No need for big men udder dan me......"
     
  13. TheFreak

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    1) the team was not "devistated".
    2) show proof that he "convinced Rudy to stand pat".
    3) show proof that the Rockets didn't "go after available talent" (I'd be curious to hear this inside info).
    4) Hakeem isn't a college scout, last I checked...I doubt he knew who Bryce Drew was before he joined the team.
    5) By "other worthless souls", do you mean Dickerson and Mobley? :confused:
     
  14. because24

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    It would be great to see Hakeem in a Rocket uniform again. Hakeem was the first player to bring a much deserved and long waited title to Houston. I know alot of people will say what have you done for me lately in regards of Hakeem coming back, and they would be right, but Hakeem is the best athlete Houston ever had to offer ( in his prime) or the NBA at that time. So if we could trade Cato straight up for Hakeem I hope every body would be with me and say "go for it".:D
     
  15. hardeji

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    Freakster,
    I specifically remember several 2 or 3 interviews/articles where Hakeem stated that the existing personnel would be good enought to win championships. Therefore, any moves would hurt the nucleus of the existing team. Next thing you know, he's p..sing and moaning about his contract and he's outta here.

    Yeah, Mobley's here; but where's Drew and Dickerson? We could have packaged those 3 picks up and moved up. Mobley's turned out to be good; but who knows "what if"?

    So you don't think the team has suffered during those years?
    Where have you been?
     
  16. hardeji

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    Why would you trade Cato for Hakeem? That makes no sense.
    Cato (now) is far better than Hakeem. With a half-healthy body, Cato is good for 30"/game. At best, Hakeem could give you 10 to 15". Cato's 28 y.o. and averaged 7 and 7 last year on 26" per game (career highs in minutes and rebs). Hakeem had similar numbers, but is at least 40 by now and won't take much more pounding.
     
  17. Possum

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    oops
     
    #17 Possum, Aug 22, 2002
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    Without Dickerson there would be no Steve Francis....nuff said
     
  19. hardeji

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    I dunno. Centers are valuable. Even Cato's got some blue sky. I see a bunch of posts that discuss Knick's interest in him.

    Unless you feel Collier is serviceable, keep Cato.

    Yeah, he makes a bunch of $, but if we get rid of him, and he continues to improve, we'll be kicking ourselves; plus have to shell out buko for another project.

    Keep Cato. He and Ming will be tough!
     
  20. Dennis2112

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    Hakeem will only be here for the min....

    But considering that Hakeem has 2 more years of service left on a contract which the Rockets did not want to pay the 1st time around, so why would they want to pay it now.

    As funny as this may sound..MoT is a more productive player than Hakeem is.
     

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