1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Should Afghanistan legalize Opium?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Senator, Apr 26, 2019.

?

legalize?

  1. Yes

    1 vote(s)
    50.0%
  2. No

    1 vote(s)
    50.0%
  1. Senator

    Senator Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2018
    Messages:
    2,436
    Likes Received:
    910
    US Military War on Opium in Afghanistan Lost

    It's only 1/3 of their GDP, employing 600,000 people. The biggest source of funds for the Taliban and a way for them to control the police in most areas.

    The US spent $1.5 million a day to destroy it for the past 20 years and that failed miserably.

    [​IMG]

    Most of it goes to Europe and Canada. I say the US removes itself from overseas drug wars, let prices drop and focus on keeping drugs out of the country (all of US heroin/morphine comes from Mexico/Latin America). Increase border security (nothing to do with a wall).
     
  2. glynch

    glynch Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2000
    Messages:
    17,792
    Likes Received:
    3,395
    It is also the main source of funds for our favored warlords and the government aside from our aid.

    No American soldier wants to be the last to die in our losing war there. No president wants to be the president who loses Afghanistan.
     
    #2 glynch, Apr 26, 2019
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2019
  3. HTM

    HTM Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2013
    Messages:
    6,511
    Likes Received:
    4,732
    The U.S. should pull out of Afghanistan completely. It's only a matter of time until that thing goes all South Vietnam anyway. Total waste of money. Help get out the people who assisted us and are in danger and then Bon Voyage. If you need to go into Afghanistan in a limited way with drones/special forces you can do so.
     
    Invisible Fan and CometsWin like this.
  4. Senator

    Senator Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2018
    Messages:
    2,436
    Likes Received:
    910
    Favored warlords?
     
  5. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    86,326
    Likes Received:
    84,860
    I've said this for a decade or more: the US and EU should buy all of it from the farmers (cutting out the warlords) keep what we need for legitimate medicinal purposes, and dump the rest in the ocean. Way cheaper and more humane than trying to eradicate cultivation.
     
    ryan_98, cml750 and FranchiseBlade like this.
  6. FranchiseBlade

    FranchiseBlade Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    48,973
    Likes Received:
    17,567
    That's a great idea. Do they do that every year or every two years?
     
  7. cml750

    cml750 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2002
    Messages:
    5,898
    Likes Received:
    3,545
    There would be a lot of happy fish in that scenario.;)

    On serious note that is not a bad idea.
     
    Buck Turgidson likes this.
  8. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    86,326
    Likes Received:
    84,860
    Nobody asks my opinion.
     
    FranchiseBlade likes this.
  9. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2003
    Messages:
    47,465
    Likes Received:
    17,162
  10. Senator

    Senator Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2018
    Messages:
    2,436
    Likes Received:
    910
    These operations run on a lot of... "hope for the future". Once you make it a commodity that afghanistan expects to be bought every year, you raise the chance of huge instability and a fall out if you have to take away that cash source one day.

    Also, once it has US$ backing it as a crap, a lot more will want to get into it and grow it.

    It's not a viable idea.
     
  11. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    86,326
    Likes Received:
    84,860
    Of course it is, on a US/EU/UN mandated level to help fund a failed state. Just like other countries who have nationalized oil production.
     
  12. Senator

    Senator Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2018
    Messages:
    2,436
    Likes Received:
    910
    What's the limit? What's the ceiling? Who decides which farmers get to grow it, and how much they can grow? What if they form a union with better eqipment and produce more and more per acre, since revenues are guaranteed? Why the US / EU pay them to grow something they have to throw away instead of pay them to do nothing?

    Then of course, a major event happens and you'll see the instability created when the US can't fund a high grade drug. And the market will find ways to take advantage of it, lower the street price, get more addicts. The potential for instability increases each year as more people become dependent on growing it, and people find ways to use it.

    It's stoner talk
     
  13. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    86,326
    Likes Received:
    84,860
    This sounds exactly, literally exactly, like how Western countries handle crops like soybeans and wheat. And they feed the world.

    Your 2nd paragraph is complete garbage. Carry on. And I do mean "carry one", you are amusing.
     
  14. Senator

    Senator Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2018
    Messages:
    2,436
    Likes Received:
    910
    they feed feedlot cows, not the world. Monocropping w/ heavy fertilization while soil dies is a very unhealthy practice if you ask any soy or corn farmer in the US. Then you inject those cows with antibiotics to keep them barely alive... it's a cycle of death. You don't seem to get the "addictive" nature of a class A drug, and the supply and demand that creates on the black market as opposed to legitimate food sources. Heroin tends to have a different effect on the body as wheat. If you can ensure only a certain amount is grown, ALL OF IT IS collected, the right amount is used for medicinal production, and the rest is disposed of cleanly, you can probably cure cancer as well
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now