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Seattle votes to defund police 50%

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    Definitely no nba team returning
     
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    From those articles, its councilmen support for the proposal. No vote.

    “A majority of Seattle City Council members now say they agree with a high-level proposal by advocates to defund the Police Department by 50% and reallocate the dollars to other community needs.”
     
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    "Seattle City Council Member Suggests Firing White Officers In Massive Reduction Of Police Department":

    https://jonathanturley.org/2020/07/...rs-in-massive-reduction-of-police-department/

    excerpt:

    The Seattle City Council is facing something of a dilemma in its popular pledge to cut the police budget by 50 percent. To do so would require firing a significant number of police officers, which is also popular. The problem is that the firing would be done by seniority and many of the less senior officers are black. The solution according to City Council member Lisa Herbold is simple: fire officers based on their race. While that would be the definition of racial discrimination, Herbold clearly believes that it is discrimination for a good cause. The federal courts are likely to disagree. Most notably, Herbold’s call for racial discrimination against white officers would seek to undue the work of Justice Thurgood Marshall who insisted that racial discrimination unlawful and evil regardless of the race you want to disenfranchise or discriminate against.

    Seattle Police Chief Carmen Best released a video calling the plan of Herbold and others “completely reckless.” She also sent a letter to Mayor Jenny Durkan warning that dramatic cuts would require the layoff of hundreds of officers. The Police Department also warned that the firings would include many minority officers.

    It was only the last risk that concerned Herbold who promptly suggested discriminating on the basis of race:

    more at the link
     
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    It's simply illegal to hire or fire based on race. This isn't a real thing.
     
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    lol. lots of stuff is illegal. doesn't make it less real
     
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    I like Johnathan Turley and his takes. As far as Seattle, it is a lost cause. What I am afraid of is for the cities outside of Seattle like Bothell, Everett, Mukilteo, Bellevue and a dozen more catching Seattle’s disease too. Damn these Marxist loonies, they destroy everything that they touch.
     
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    Kurt Cobain rolling in his grave
     
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    What a city councilman thinks doesn't matter. No organization can institute that kind of policy without facing a massive lawsuit. I don't think anyone should be concerned about this.
     
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    Has it's merits. Will free police to do police work.
    Cal will do a lot of good, but I'll wager that these people will be despised by certain groups also - a lot of truant kids ain't about to listen to anybody.
    One possible downside, Cal personnel will likely need a lot of expensive training.
     
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    Fire white LEOs?
    A tad discriminatory one would think.
    Wait - she's white - she should resign immediately.
     
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    Lol no SuperSonics return FOR SURE
     
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    That looks like a great start. Of course, the devil is in the details and we'll have to see how it's implemented. I love taking some of the things off of the overstuffed plates of police. This combined with some cutting edge and thorough training for both CAL and the new police force could pay huge dividends. Nothing is going to be perfect and anything starting out will have some kinks that need to be ironed out, but it looks promising. I would love to see other cities follow suit.
     
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    You don't, you just don't get to say ****, because you are just terrible.

    Burn, little skippy.

     
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