1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

  2. Watching NBA Action
    Come join Clutch as we're watching NBA playoff action live, including SGA and the Thunder taking on the New Orleans Pelicans

    LIVE: NBA Playoffs!
    Dismiss Notice
Welcome LIVE NBA ACTION

Scola, by quarter

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by heypartner, Jan 27, 2012.

Tags:
Page 1 of 2
  1. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 1999
    Messages:
    62,564
    Likes Received:
    56,281
    First, thanks to durvasa for turning me onto the StatsCube at nba.com, so I could produce splits by quarter.

    I've felt all season long that Scola's production is mainly in the 1st half. We will get him off at the beginning of games (much like Rudy did with Maurice Taylor), but then he disappears in the 2nd half.

    Is it by design (as MoT was) or tired legs.

    However, I didn't expect to see this huge of a drop off. Look at those %s. Also, it's curious that his REB% is at or above his career ave, but overall rebounds are way down. That must be the Dalembert effect.

    RED >= 10% below career average
    GREEN >= 10% above career average

    Oh, each quarter is for per 36 minutes, to make more comparable.

    <style type="text/css">kevin {background-color: #CD1010; color: #FFF} green {background-color: #00CC00; color: #FFF} table.tableizer-table {border: 1px solid #CCC; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;} .tableizer-table td {padding: 4px; margin: 3px; border: 1px solid #ccc;} .tableizer-table th {background-color: #CD1010; color: #FFF; font-weight: bold;} </style>
    <table class="tableizer-table"> <tr ><th>Quarter</th><th>MIN </th><th>FGM </th><th>FGA </th><th>FG% </th><th>REB</th><th>REB%</th><th>PTS </th><th>eFG%</th><th>TS%</th></tr> <tr><td>1</td><td>9.8</td><td style="background-color: #CD1010; color: #FFF">11.0</td><td style="background-color: #CD1010; color: #FFF">18.3</td><td style="background-color: #009900; color: #FFF">60.0%</td><td style="background-color: #CD1010; color: #FFF">5.9</td><td>9.6%</td><td style="background-color: #CD1010; color: #FFF">23.5</td><td style="background-color: #009900; color: #FFF">60.0%</td><td style="background-color: #009900; color: #FFF">61.2%</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>7.3</td><td style="background-color: #CD1010; color: #FFF">7.9</td><td style="background-color: #CD1010; color: #FFF">13.8</td><td style="background-color: #009900; color: #FFF">55.0%</td><td style="background-color: #CD1010; color: #FFF">7.4</td><td>9.8%</td><td style="background-color: #CD1010; color: #FFF">18.7</td><td style="background-color: #009900; color: #FFF">54.9%</td><td style="background-color: #009900; color: #FFF">58.6%</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>8.7</td><td style="background-color: #CD1010; color: #FFF">6.6</td><td style="background-color: #CD1010; color: #FFF">15.7</td><td style="background-color: #CD1010; color: #FFF">42.0%</td><td style="background-color: #CD1010; color: #FFF">7.4</td><td style="background-color: #009900; color: #FFF">11.7%</td><td style="background-color: #CD1010; color: #FFF">14.1</td><td style="background-color: #CD1010; color: #FFF">42.2%</td><td style="background-color: #CD1010; color: #FFF">43.1%</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>7.8</td><td style="background-color: #CD1010; color: #FFF">4.2</td><td style="background-color: #CD1010; color: #FFF">15.2</td><td style="background-color: #CD1010; color: #FFF">28.0%</td><td style="background-color: #CD1010; color: #FFF">6.9</td><td>10.7%</td><td style="background-color: #CD1010; color: #FFF">10.6</td><td style="background-color: #CD1010; color: #FFF">27.5%</td><td style="background-color: #CD1010; color: #FFF">32.5%</td></tr></table>
     
    #1 heypartner, Jan 27, 2012
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2012
    2 people like this.
  2. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2007
    Messages:
    45,153
    Likes Received:
    21,570
    We should only play Scola 2 quarters, that's all his stamina will allow him to do. Obviously.
     
    #2 Carl Herrera, Jan 27, 2012
  3. durvasa

    durvasa Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2006
    Messages:
    37,992
    Likes Received:
    15,455
    #3 durvasa, Jan 27, 2012
  4. alethios

    alethios Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    7,974
    Likes Received:
    6,015
    How are those minutes right? Does not compute.
     
    #4 alethios, Jan 27, 2012
  5. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 1999
    Messages:
    62,564
    Likes Received:
    56,281
    ^^ Oh, each quarter is in per 36 minutes, to make more comparable. I accidentally multiplied the minutes to. Let me edit the real minutes back in.
     
    #5 heypartner, Jan 27, 2012
  6. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 1999
    Messages:
    62,564
    Likes Received:
    56,281
    fixed. I put the real minutes back into the chart. Notice the minutes are within his career ave.
     
    #6 heypartner, Jan 27, 2012
  7. valorita

    valorita Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2009
    Messages:
    3,101
    Likes Received:
    1,765
    as patterson gets better scolas min should reduce to 28-30 min of effective play a night. Pls morey get a decent backup C so scola doesn't have to.
    how's yao's foot? Can he contribute 15-20 min every other game?
     
    #7 valorita, Jan 27, 2012
  8. VBG

    VBG Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2009
    Messages:
    7,990
    Likes Received:
    307
    It's nice seeing stats backing up the eye test.
     
    #8 VBG, Jan 27, 2012
  9. acsorelle4

    acsorelle4 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2009
    Messages:
    2,913
    Likes Received:
    373
    People need to be more patient with Scola. Even with stats and careful reflection, the small sample size leaves all if this analysis in the realm of knee jerk.

    Also, Scola suffers from a well known seasonal slump that has affected him for his entire career. Doesn't it start around Christmas and end pretty soon?
     
    #9 acsorelle4, Jan 27, 2012
  10. blunto

    blunto Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2009
    Messages:
    538
    Likes Received:
    29
    How do those rates deviate from an average PF's rates for each quarter? Any evidence to support defenses being tighter in the 4th quarter, for example?
     
    #10 blunto, Jan 27, 2012
  11. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 1999
    Messages:
    62,564
    Likes Received:
    56,281
    blunto,

    Good question. Mabye the nba tool will do entire league averages. That would be interesting. The red shows how it deviates from Scola's career averages. Best I can do.
     
    #11 heypartner, Jan 27, 2012
  12. gah

    gah Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2008
    Messages:
    2,474
    Likes Received:
    142
    I remember that when Landry was the sixth man Scola was severely questioned about not showing up in the fourth qtr -Landry was one of the league leaders in 4th qt scoring- then Landry got traded and Scola had that chip on his shoulder and he started performing better. Maybe he has regressed into old habits, for the most part he has looked worse this year in those situations. although along with him the whole team offense looks discombobulated in the 4th and it's a problem we've had for several years now.
     
    #12 gah, Jan 27, 2012
  13. JayZ750

    JayZ750 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2000
    Messages:
    25,273
    Likes Received:
    12,994
    Great table. The drop in shooting %'s is crazy. especially considering his rebounding stays the same, if not goes up. Sure, rebounding isn't as precise as shooting, but it does require energy? Scola seems to come out of halftime a rebounding machine (for him), but his shooting drops off a cliff.
     
    #13 JayZ750, Jan 27, 2012
  14. SamFisher

    SamFisher Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    58,887
    Likes Received:
    36,460
    It has something to do with the Corioliss effect and the fact that he is from south of the equator.
     
    #14 SamFisher, Jan 27, 2012
  15. Easy

    Easy Boban Only Fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2002
    Messages:
    35,197
    Likes Received:
    24,224
    Great thread, HP.

    Without looking at the numbers, intuition tells me that if the league-wide scoring average is about the same for all quarters, then the "tighter defense" argument shouldn't hold water unless the argument is that teams begin to change their defensive strategies by packing the paint in the last quarter.

    I have noticed that Scola usually comes out shooting (and making) right out the gate. Then he begins to drop off. in the 2nd quarter. He used to give us some clutch baskets down the stretch and maybe because of that, I didn't really notice his poor performance in the 4th.

    This seems to confirm the theory that his declining production this year is the result of fatigue.
     
    #15 Easy, Jan 27, 2012
  16. txtodd

    txtodd Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2008
    Messages:
    716
    Likes Received:
    561
    Ooooh dude. Like asking about Ann Jillian's boobs.
     
    #16 txtodd, Jan 27, 2012
  17. arjun

    arjun Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2006
    Messages:
    4,214
    Likes Received:
    280
    Ouch..and we have him signed for how many more years?? I'm sure he's a goner by deadline or draft.
     
    #17 arjun, Jan 27, 2012
  18. alethios

    alethios Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    7,974
    Likes Received:
    6,015
    thanks hp - I thought maybe he had one of those time-turner thingies.
     
    #18 alethios, Jan 27, 2012
  19. alethios

    alethios Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    7,974
    Likes Received:
    6,015
     
    #19 alethios, Jan 27, 2012
  20. leebigez

    leebigez Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2001
    Messages:
    15,487
    Likes Received:
    586
    Scola and hill for landry. Patterson gets to start, landry off the bench, plus landry expires at the end of the yr.
     
    #20 leebigez, Jan 27, 2012
(You must log in or sign up to post here.)
Page 1 of 2

Share This Page

Toggle Width
Style
ClutchFans Original

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Rockets Content

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now