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Rockets trade Michael Beasley to Bucks for Tyler Ennis

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RocketsPimp, Sep 22, 2016.

  1. Bo6

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    gotta think morey kinda panicked when beverely had that pre-season injury. even though beasley is a "bad fit" he would have been nice for stretches when anderson is hurt/bricking.

    beasley isn't a dumb guy. he would have played just fine in this offense.
     
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  2. YOLO

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    he's actually pretty dumb which is a huge reason why he hasn't panned out in the league
     
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  3. xtruroyaltyx

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    Was about to say the same thing.
     
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    Who would've thought that Beasley had better handles than Ennis?
     
  5. Bo6

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    all his interview post china he comes off fine to me. ya'll can rip on his past for sure, but maybe i'm a sucker for second chances but since his return he has been a professional.



    cute little like wankfest yall got going there ;)
     
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  6. YOLO

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    interviews tell you how smart a player is when it comes to the NBA? well that's a first. you should probably let personnel know about that
     
  7. Mathloom

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    No, you literally never just need points. There's another team on the floor and they can score. You need to score more than your opponent, and that requires a bunch of stuff.

    Besides, if points is all we need, we have Ryan Anderson. He scores in a way that allows his teammates (especially Harden) to assault the other team's interior defense, while Beasley clogs up the middle. Beasley can shove the 9 points on 7 shots up his a$$ if it means you have to give him the ball and just watch him bounce the ball to death for 20 seconds each time. In the modern NBA, there is no reason to give a player the ball that much unless they are an elite iso talent, which Beasley is certainly not.

    Anderson gives you slightly better production and he barely even bounces the ball. He either shoots an open shot or passes it to a teammate in better position. Harrell is young and developing NICELY in the minutes he's getting. Same for Dekker. Dekker might already be a better overall player than Beasley.

    If Beasley's points were resulting in overall success for his team, he wouldn't have been in China, and he wouldn't have been available for the minimum. He's just a guy who can score if given the ball a lot and he's a liability at everything else and apparently he's not the greatest off the court player. Those are a dime a dozen. You can sign them anytime for when you need it, and that's what Morey did. Same for Ennis, he's a dime a dozen player who's typically available for the minimum. We temporarily needed one of those at a different position, so we traded Beasley for Ennis.

    We are winning 70% of our games and are the 3rd best team in the league. Michael Beasley is totally insignificant to our team. We don't go on droughts, we are the 2nd best offense in the NBA and something like the 20th defense. We score more and more often than almost all teams. We do not lack scoring at all. We lack athletic defenders and perhaps rebounders. We lack enough depth to cover us in the backcourt. No rational person would look at a team that never takes mid range jumpers and likes to move the ball and is 2nd best offense and 20th defense and say: "Gee, we could really use Michael Beasley!!"
     
  8. T FOR 3!!!

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    Ennis has not worked out. Beasely is the better player, but he wouldn't be playing anyways because of the development of Dekker. Ennis isn't a bad passer, just doesn't fit our offense without being a shooter or particularly good at 3s or defense. Beasely would be a better asset, but Ennis is more needed, even with his shortcomings.
     
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  9. alethios

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    Hey it worked for Royce White
     
  10. YOLO

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    did it? dont see him anywhere near the league these days
     
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    But what I think the folks are trying to say is that by having Beasley it just gives us another person that can score and create his own shot. What Ennis brings to the table as compared to Beasley just doesn't compare. Yes we have one of the best offenses in the league but it really suffers when Ryan Anderson and/or EG is hurt. Harden has to do too much and that's when he starts the double digit turnovers.

    Your statement of 9 points on 7 shots would be fine with me if he is shooting it at great clip like the 52% for this season with the Bucks. In the regular season for the last 20 games for us he shot 52% and averaged 13 points a game on just 18 minutes of playing time. In the playoffs last year the 1st game was the only game he shot under 50%. He finished with averages of 10 pts at 48% on just 16 minutes of playing time. I will take that all day everyday off the bench. Like someone else stated when those 3s aren't falling it sure is nice to have someone who can put in the bucket or create fouls.....Beasley also creates mismatches which Anderson and Dekkar or Harrell rarely do. Guess its no use crying over spilled milk but I was one of those who questioned that trade....And don't let me get started on Brewer......
     
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  12. alethios

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    You didn't specify a time requirement, but I do seem to remember Morey and McHale being impressed by him during his interview.
     
  13. xtruroyaltyx

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    Says the ninja scarfing down Michael freaking Beasley's schlong.
     
  14. Mathloom

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    FG% is a tremendously flawed stat. Lebron shoots 53.5% and Harden shoots 44%. Lebron is generating 26 points on 18 shots, Harden is generating 29 points on 19 shots. Harden is the better scorer. This is what data and statistics have taught us, that a different MIX of shot types can have better outcomes.

    Beasley is putting up 9 points on 7 shots. That's nothing, it's common. What makes him a negative is what it takes for him to make those 9 points - it takes 15-20 seconds off the clock, it rests 4 defenders on the opponents side, it cools down our other 4 guys, etc. And again, you are ignoring the attitude he might be bringing to practice and the influence he might be having in the locker room. These things have dogged him his entire career, and the coaches know best, but the point is our decisions are NOT based on a comparison of FG% between two players. There are tons of factors.

    It would be nice to have Beasley when the stars align to make him the best option off the bench, but it would be nice to have a lot of things. If we prioritize the list of things that would be nice to have, an average iso scoring option would not be among the top priorities. Like I mentioned, we need defenders and rebounders who can score because those are areas our team is lacking. We do not have a scoring problem, we are prone to scoring droughts LESS than all but one team in the NBA. We are elite scorers, we do not need scoring help. There are only 15 roster spots, and an 8-10 man rotation. It would be nice to replace Brewer or Brown with Beasley and have Beasley sit on the bench for blow outs but that is minimally important right now.

    Btw Dekker and Harrell are CONSTANTLY creating mismatches. Dekker and Harrell are quicker and faster than their defender almost all the time, that's why they are doing well. But they can get eaten up on defense, just not as bad as Beasley, and their willingness to play a team game on offense and defense mitigates their weaknesses.
     
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  15. Garner

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    Nothing says "your team is not a contender" quite like a "shoulda kept Beasley" thread.
     
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    Beasley can ball man. I don't care what anyone says. Dude understands driving angles and space as well as anyone in the league.
     
  17. malakas

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    I don't believe this thread is still going on. So every once in a blue moon Beasley manages to do smth useful we are going to bring it up?
    Why are ppl obsessing over freaking Beasley like they lost some kind of superstar for nothing?
     
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    Great Point BUT THE MOREY LOVERS ARE MISSING THE MAIN POINT OF THE MICHAEL BEASLEY TRADE!! Morey choose the wrong player off of Milwaukee's Roster....MCW should have been the player! If I recall, Milwaukee just lost their main scorer to injury and was in the market for a scorer, so basically they approached The Rockets. I thought everyone knew MCW was a better player than Ennis but Morey didn't get the memo or his computer was down that day.

    Point is, MCW would've at least got on the floor, which is more than what we are getting from Ennis, which is a player that Morey cut and brought back.
     
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  19. YOLO

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    MCW sucks. tbh i don't know whose jump shot is worse his or rubio
     
  20. ballgame

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    Sure his jump shot sucks (I'M SURE MOREY THOUGHT THE SAME THING AS YOU) but just like Mathloom said, it's more to basketball than scoring! MCW rebounds, he pass and he penetrates, similar to Shaun Livingston. If we had him on the team now, he immediately takes pressure off E Gordon. If E Gordon didn't have to play make and score, he probably wouldn't have been injured over the past week or two.
     

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