Rockets Should Follow Proven Model to Reach Perennial Contention

You're technically right about the draft. ABOUT the recipe for CONTENTION.

1) To get old Ray Allen, Boston traded AWAY their #5 PICK (Jeff Green).

Ray Allen is about on par if not lower than Gasol in ranking at his position. Though of course it was Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett who were the more important players for the Celtics.

Include Garnett in the full deal, and the Boston traded even MORE picks and MORE of their FUTURE. If anything Boston is a good example of "win now". Was Jeff Green and Al Jefferson going to give MORE the Celtics than Garnett and Ray Allen?

2) About Rajon Rondo himself - In the past 20 years, star point guards as your BEST player DO NOT WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS. Its still a BIGS + WINGS league.

2-time MVP Steve Nash, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Derrick Rose. No titles. Jason Kidd in his prime did NOT win any titles. Old man Jason Kidd riding the cottails of Dirk won a championship. Tony Parker and Chauncy Billups were Finals MVPs. Though were they their team's BEST PLAYER?

Who's the favorite this year to win? Miami Heat. Star wings and crappy point guard. Rajon Rondo keeps the Celts competitive. It remains to be been if a STAR POINT GUARD led team will start winning titles again like the Magic Johnson/Isiah era and back. I actually think it will though. Rose, CP3 & Westbrook are THAT good.

3) Though I DO get what you mean by not being SHORT-SIGHTED. Through the draft you can potentially get someone BETTER than old Pau Gasol.

 

He's techinically right. Just not in the WAY he stated it

- Boston had to have their OWN TOP 5 LOTTERY PICK, to TRADE FOR comparable veteran talent. Though Boston didnt use the pick to DRAFT for THEMSELVES (which the OP is saying to do), they still had to GET that pick in the FIRST PLACE. Its still a valuable bargaining chip to have ('round here we like to call 'em "assets")

... eh, what can ya do? Just gotta try to help the members out

 

Even if someone was to agree with the befuddled mess that is the OP, WHAT IS THE POINT OF IT CURRENTLY???

There is no way we can tank well enough to get a high lotto pick from the position we're in. So option B of trying to get Gasol [while keeping Lowry and Martin] seems to make a lot of sense. It gives us a 2.5 year window to add the right roleplayers around them (something Morey has shown he can do) and we can go for the 'win now' thing.

 

He's on the right track though.

The only reason they got Ray Allen was because of their high pick that they traded to Seattle.

The only reason they got Garnett was because they got Allen.

So actually he's right that it took a high draft pick to turn their ship around.

Not sure why it matters though. Newsflash OP, the Knicks are doing well now and it looks like the Rockets would be lucky to get a lottery pick from them but I doubt the Bucks or Cleveland are going to take the 8th seed from them.

 

I'm pretty sure we're sticking to a variation of the "Sac model"

Lowry-Bibby
Martin-Stojakovic
Parsons-Christie
Gasol-Webber
Motiejunas-Divac

Of course it's McHaleified, and the motion offense isn't the primary focus.

 

OP doesn't realize that Leslie Alexander refuses to tank, so this thread is a moot point.

 

OK what a dumb post by the OP.

1. This is just another one of those we should tank threads. Les Alexander isn't tanking, unless he has a change of heart and gets Bogut (or Blatche or Okafor which I would love).

2. What Perenial contention are you talking about? Celts contended for all of 3 years, after that they're in worse shape now than we are. OKC only became a contender this year, they haven't even reached the NBA finals yet. Rest is history after drafting KD? Why don't you count the years it took OKC to get to this point, that around 5 years and that's starting your franchise with KD on year 1 and WB on year 2. Secondly, OKC was really lucky that Portland chose the wrong dude at number 1. If they had picked Oden 2nd where would they be now? Luck had more to do with OKC being where they are now rather than tanking.

3. Dallas and the Celts won a ring going against your post of trading for old dudes. I don't know what trade is gonna happen but if we somehow get Gasol, Dalembert, Kmart, Lowry and Parsons as our starting 5 I'd say we can win a 7 game series against anyone, Miami and OKC included.

 

Another cleverly disguised Daryl Morey and Les Alexander knee jerk thread...

 

The only Celtic lottery pick which panned out was Al Jefferson (not counting Joe Johnson because they traded him for a bag of peanuts).

 

are you saying that Rondo became a great PG, and then Allen and KG went to the Celtics?

cuz last time i checked, when KG and Allen came to Boston, Rondo was the weakest link.

Although OKC is a great example, Boston is not. And if the loterry is so awesome then explain the tragedy that is the Wizards?

OKC is a great example but it is countered by the Wizards, in other words, your point is flawed.

 

I don't really see the similarities between these lineups. Especially not Motiejunas/Divac and Gasol/Webber.

 

Just realized Al Jefferson was drafted 15th overall.

The Celtics have had 4 lotto picks in the past 10 years:
Jeff Green (who they traded for Ray Allen so that one worked out)
Randy Foye (drafted ahead of Gay, they traded him for Sebastain Telfair)
Joe Johnson (who they traded for veterans)
Kedrick Brown (who sucked)

So out of 4 lotto picks, one worked out (via trade). Yup, that tanking really made them a great team.

 

Lol dude its a joke everyone always compared us to Adelman's sac team when he was here so I was just pulling a funny

 

there is no knee jerk with this group, honestly. we've had 15 years now where we've one a grand total of one playoff series. i've been rooting for the Rockets for as long as I can remember, and this franchise is in a serious drought, and it doesn't look like it's about to rain anytime soon. stop with all the knee-jerk crap. the frustration of Rockets fans has been brewing for a very long time now.