Rockets Roster building is a 4 step process and should be done in this order

Millsap or J Smoove ain't gonna take us to the next step.

Morey's being smart keeping cap flexibility for a another "Harden" type deal to come by!

 

This team hasn't been to the playoffs in three years, so to say Smith or Milsap won't take them to the next step (the playoffs) is probably not accurate. Their ability to take them all the way to a championship, on the other hand, could be debated.

However, the Rockets can't trade future picks, unless they are strictly second rounders, until they fulfill their first round obligation to Atlanta. So they really need to make the playoffs this year without sacrificing future flexibility. It's a tricky road Morey is trying to navigate. I think the Rockets are in pretty good hands, though.

 

They come so often

 

if we traded for JSmoove, I'm sue he gonna re-sign with us..

 

^ sure

 

Your numbers seem off by a large amount. We don't have that much money to spend.

 

We WILL make a trade deadline move for a player not a pick we have too many players on our team and too many d-league players a trade is coming by the deadline for a certain player I just hope he is young and is a contributer

 

Why in the world would you do a sign and trade for Josh Smith or Paul Millsap, not to mention give up assets to do it, when you can just sign them in the off-season? You realize the sign and trade rules have changed from last summer so that there's no reason for either player (or Houston) to prefer a sign and trade contract over directly signing with Houston in the off-season, right? Such a deal doesn't benefit Houston and it doesn't benefit the player. The only one it benefits is the incumbent team. Further, not only does it not benefit Houston, it actually hurts Houston because of the extra restrictions involved and the unnecessary loss of assets.

 

It will be 5+ years before this team is a championship contender. OKC will still have durant , ibaka and westbrook for years to come

 

Smith not getting a max contract from Houston so trade our empty weight for him is smart

 

Why is everyone so enamored by Josh Smith? He's talented but he is NOT what this team needs...we need a stretch 4 ala Ryan Anderson on this team who can also rebound (unlike patpat) I wouldn't put our chips in the basket for Josh Smith unless you guys want just the 2nd round of the playoffs...

 

What team is going to sign Josh Smith to a max contract?

The new CBA will make teams conscientious about flexibility.

Here's a shortlist of teams that have max capspace.

New Orleans - No
Atlanta - No
Dallas - No
Cleveland - No
Wizards - No
Detroit - No
Philadelphia - No
Phoenix - Probably Not
Milwaukee - Probably Not

Josh Smith should command something like $10M per year. Best PF on the market but teams would be weary of locking up all their salary in a player who isn't a tier-1 star with the new CBA and with such a deep FA market. Lots of teams will also already have salary or developing talent locked up in the PF position and there are other PFs on the market that are similar to him at a reasonable price.

No idea why Morey drafted so many PFs.

Outside of Josh Smith other notables are Millsap, David West, JJ Hickson, Carl Landry, Andray Blatche.

As far as I know the only teams that would be really looking for a PF of his caliber and price range are Indiana, Houston and Atlanta.

 

SMH I forgot to list Al Jefferson.

The free agent market for power forwards is looking real good.

 

That means trading from him and then re-signing him. That is different from a S&T contract as proposed by the OP. A S&T means that he stays on other team for the rest of the season and the Rockets then wait for summer to ask that team to do a S&T to acquire the player in the off season. Why do that when you can sign him directly with cap space?

 

That is not allowed. If you do a sign and trade, the player loses all the benefits of his bird rights. He can only get the 5yr bird contract or the 7.5% annual bird raises if he re-signs with his old team. Not if he does a S&T. A S&T would be no different from him signing directly with another team for the regular 4.5% non-bird raises, and isn't allowed to add on extra bird years.

You could acquire another 5yr player by trading for him, but that means he has to sign a regular contract with his old team, NOT a S&T. And then that old team is not allowed to trade him until they've kept him for several months and wait for the trade opening on Jan 15th.

So the only way you can get Smith or Millsap on a 5yr contract and pair it with Harden's 5yr contract is if their old team (or whichever team they get traded to this trade deadline), chooses to offer them a max 5yr max salary contract to resign them this off season. And then hold onto them for several months and play them halfway into next season before being allowed to trade them to Houston on Jan 15th of next year.

What team would waste their cap space and 5yr slot to re-sign them for max money/years, and then waste their roster spot, team chemistry, play time, development of other prospects, etc, to hold onto them into the middle of next season just to do Houston such a favor? Not to mention you may not want either of them on a 5yr contract for max money. And I hate think of the king's ransom you'd have to give up to get another team to agree to waste half their next season like that for you. Unrealistic at best.

 

no we only can sign our players to five year deals....unrestricted free agents on other teams can only get 4 yr deals

 

Daryl Morey! Hire Socialist! I repeat: HIRE THIS MAN!