So average eFG% in NBA is %50. Which means for every shot taken it should be worth 1 point. Which means for every rebound miss you are either losing a shot chance or giving opposing team another. So is it fair to say every rebound is worth 1 point difference? We got out rebounded by around 30 last game, does this mean we could have beaten them by 30 more if we just went even? Please don't come at me with your purest math unless you want to give corrected numbers, these are just generalities. Also do you think Harrell at 4 spot would bolster the defense or do you think his size wont make much of a difference?
Defensive rebound does no harm on total possessions, it only prevent the other team to have more possessions. Every offensive rebound adds one more possession for your team, Each of your turnover makes your team to have one less possession than the other team.
Yes what's the point in playing defense if the bricked shot is just gonna be put back in or grabbed. Rebounding will send the Rockets home early
A few things: Didn't Minny get more rebounds off of missed FTs? It's not like you are expected to get those rebounds. We scored literally dozens of points without taking any shots that gets included in eFG%. Your observation assumes every scoring possession contribute to eFG%. It doesn't. Most of our 32 points on free throws didn't have a FGA attached to them. Rockets aren't average at eFG%. We shoot .550. Plus, our FTs aren't counted by eFG%. So, we are even more above average per "true shot" Minny shoots average, but that is affected by their #3 ranking in Offensive Rebounds. They need to win the rebounding battle to get second chances that get their eFG% to league average (ie,,,shots after rebounds are probably higher %). So, winning the rebounding battle is average for them. And us scoring more per shot that you is average for us. As you may have guessed, I also thought about this last night, too. Point #2-3 is what your thread is about. Us scoring more per shot (to include the 42 FTs) led to the Win, despite the huge rebound gap. So, that is what is cool about your thread. That game was a prime example of how our shooting is very above average in points scored, and so we score more per shot than you do.
Let's come to agreement on the word "possession." The word Possession used by stat formulas like ORtg and Pace are defined by change of possession....like football possessions. Offensive rebounds don't create new "Possessions" as defined by those stats....only a change of possession does. So, both teams have the roughly the same amount of Possessions per game. so, Offensive Rebounds give you a second chance for that possession, thus they will improve the team's ORtg.
Yes our defensive rebounding was horrible and we gave up around 20 points due giving them so many second chance opportunities. The Twolves game was horrible, they were getting put back dunks and layups like crazy with absolutely no contest.
A defensive rebound denies an opponent a potential shot, nba eFG% says one shot is worth 1 point on average. Also remember I did not spend a lot of time looking at every stat in the world to get a completely accurate number for everyone. I simply put it as a general theory. It might not be exactly correct due to variables but I feel as if it isn't that far off either.
To speak in generalities, since FTs are not counted in eFG%, you are really only talking about possessions that don't include shooting fouls. Your stat there is leaving out a lot of possessions in the game. And that's not just math, it's why we win. And since Minny is #3 in Off Rebounds, we'd probably see them well below average on eFG%, if they were average on boards. In effect, they better win the rebound battle, or they won't be getting 1 pt per shot.
If you are counting free throws not being in that stat then if we shoot 70% that means it is slightly over 1 point per "possession".
Offensive rebounding is a risky activity. If you get the board, you have a good chance of an easy putback. If you miss it, your man may be wide open for a fast break. You might think that balances out, but most of the time when you go for an offensive board, you fail. So you leave your man open a lot more than you get a putback. The Spurs have always had a big team in the Duncan era, but they rarely try to get offensive rebounds, because of this logic.
Not. Chemistry > Dwight's Rebounding. We could really use PJ Tucker's elite rebounding and wing defense right about now.
and Rubio. A Rubio missed shot is an extra opportunity for a rebound because . . . pure math. or something.
Man, this Wolves game has been the most dissected regular season game in post-Yao Rockets history. A WOLVES game. Enjoying it. Just weird.
